"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to loosen up around HB?

nilescrane

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I'm talking to a really hot girl on facebook. Yes, I can hear the KJs saying "Wow online that is lame." But facebook isn't a dating site...it's a way of social networking...this girl and I went to the same high school and have common friends, which is good and bad. Good because it gives me an "in," bad because I can't use my natural personality online.

When I usually talk to new women on facebook, and when I used to go on dating sites, I just kind of joke around, be sarcastic and blunt, the same way I do in real life. With this girl, I guess I'm afraid that if I flirt with her (since she's "seeing" a guy I'm acquiantances with and facebook friends with) that it will transform to him and the other mutual people we know that I'm the "creepy" guy.

In person, I could game her right and just be my natural cool self, but it has to get to the in person thing first, and right now, while she doesn't have no interest, she doesn't seem to care either way.

I just feel like the guy in person who's hanging with the hot girl and talks to her like he'd talk to the aunt or uncle he never sees and says "What have you been up to?" in an insincere tone.

Anyway how can I be more fun talking to her without going all out and making a bad name for myself or making the guy think that I'm trying to sneak up on her online? (I don't care what he thinks in person, if I get a one on one date/hangout, I can game her correctly.)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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nilescrane

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Update: Talked to her again. This time I realized, the problem isn't me or my game: it's her and her IL. Online game can be equated to phone game and day 2s, so this is good advice: If she's showing low IL: next her.

I used my normal game on her, just talked to her like I would anyone else, and she seemed disinterested.

She was likely just liking the attention of me messaging her, coupled with the fact that I wasn't a weirdo.

So instead of doing the typical SS AFC move (persisting, or calling her out and then nexting her), I didn't say anything, deleted her off my friends list, and moved on.

There's a lesson here...not every hot girl is going to be interested in you, and it has nothing to do with your looks, personality, or game. It's just the nature of the beast. She's the one with the problem, not me.

Even in target poor areas, there are other really hot women out there, that are more interested in you.

90% of the threads on here would be unnecessary if guys just gave up and found another, actually interested, woman.
 

Jitterbug

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You should read Anti-Dump's Machine threads compiled by Pook in the DJ Bible.

As for the topic question, find a hobby that allows you to hang out with attractive women regularly. Once you're used to it, you'll be casual & relaxed around them.
 
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