"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to loosen up around HB?

nilescrane

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I'm talking to a really hot girl on facebook. Yes, I can hear the KJs saying "Wow online that is lame." But facebook isn't a dating site...it's a way of social networking...this girl and I went to the same high school and have common friends, which is good and bad. Good because it gives me an "in," bad because I can't use my natural personality online.

When I usually talk to new women on facebook, and when I used to go on dating sites, I just kind of joke around, be sarcastic and blunt, the same way I do in real life. With this girl, I guess I'm afraid that if I flirt with her (since she's "seeing" a guy I'm acquiantances with and facebook friends with) that it will transform to him and the other mutual people we know that I'm the "creepy" guy.

In person, I could game her right and just be my natural cool self, but it has to get to the in person thing first, and right now, while she doesn't have no interest, she doesn't seem to care either way.

I just feel like the guy in person who's hanging with the hot girl and talks to her like he'd talk to the aunt or uncle he never sees and says "What have you been up to?" in an insincere tone.

Anyway how can I be more fun talking to her without going all out and making a bad name for myself or making the guy think that I'm trying to sneak up on her online? (I don't care what he thinks in person, if I get a one on one date/hangout, I can game her correctly.)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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nilescrane

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Update: Talked to her again. This time I realized, the problem isn't me or my game: it's her and her IL. Online game can be equated to phone game and day 2s, so this is good advice: If she's showing low IL: next her.

I used my normal game on her, just talked to her like I would anyone else, and she seemed disinterested.

She was likely just liking the attention of me messaging her, coupled with the fact that I wasn't a weirdo.

So instead of doing the typical SS AFC move (persisting, or calling her out and then nexting her), I didn't say anything, deleted her off my friends list, and moved on.

There's a lesson here...not every hot girl is going to be interested in you, and it has nothing to do with your looks, personality, or game. It's just the nature of the beast. She's the one with the problem, not me.

Even in target poor areas, there are other really hot women out there, that are more interested in you.

90% of the threads on here would be unnecessary if guys just gave up and found another, actually interested, woman.
 

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You should read Anti-Dump's Machine threads compiled by Pook in the DJ Bible.

As for the topic question, find a hobby that allows you to hang out with attractive women regularly. Once you're used to it, you'll be casual & relaxed around them.
 
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