Ok this is starting to get on my nerves. It seams i can talk to and get the number of any girl but i cant seam to keep the attraction level up for any length of timr after. I cant pinpoint the full problem but i think my sickness of foot-n-mouth desease could be a big factor. So my question is how do i keep myself interesting and mysterious without making conversation. I know i need to kino and all but what shows interest and in general something they like without coming off as booring, rude, or too nice.. Also this is mostly at college. Think i blew it with one i kinda liked and dont want it to spread.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
How to keep the attracton without speaking...?
- Thread starter IM0001
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
undesputable
Master Don Juan
haha well youll deffintly keep the mysteriousness by keeping your mouth shut, so i wouldnt worry about that. what you got to worry about is being interesting.
ya
Well thats the problem. How do I keep myself interesting without getting feet breath.
After watching the movie Hitch about 5 min ago I kinda see where he is quite, keeps answers and such to the point yet comical and clear. And you must admit the thing he did to get the ball rolling is pretty awsome/unreal. So getting something in that Dirrection I would think would help a bit.. The problem is breaking the old habits.
Well thats the problem. How do I keep myself interesting without getting feet breath.
After watching the movie Hitch about 5 min ago I kinda see where he is quite, keeps answers and such to the point yet comical and clear. And you must admit the thing he did to get the ball rolling is pretty awsome/unreal. So getting something in that Dirrection I would think would help a bit.. The problem is breaking the old habits.
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
1 - You are not Hitch
2 - Do not try to be hitch. See no 1.
3 - Hitch is a movie, it should be viewed as a highly orchastrated example of how someone that is a mad player handles things.
The point is not to start trying to be as smooth as him because you are just gonna taste your feet anyway the second that the girl gives you ANY rebuttle that you are not used to.
Why not just go out on your own time, fvck up a few times and learn a few things... find some friends that have the experience that you lack and get them to help you out with some friendly criticism. Then keep going and getting numbers and getting shot down and learning everytime... then eventually, you will be at the point where you can handle any situation that comes up because you will know how to better say things to get what you want.
I want to emphasize how I said 'HOW to BETTER say THINGS' rather than 'How to SAY better things'. Because the fact is that most of the changes that you need to make are changes in voice TONE and your body language. Even Hitch says it ' 95% of what you say is said before the first word comes out of your mouth'
2 - Do not try to be hitch. See no 1.
3 - Hitch is a movie, it should be viewed as a highly orchastrated example of how someone that is a mad player handles things.
The point is not to start trying to be as smooth as him because you are just gonna taste your feet anyway the second that the girl gives you ANY rebuttle that you are not used to.
Why not just go out on your own time, fvck up a few times and learn a few things... find some friends that have the experience that you lack and get them to help you out with some friendly criticism. Then keep going and getting numbers and getting shot down and learning everytime... then eventually, you will be at the point where you can handle any situation that comes up because you will know how to better say things to get what you want.
I want to emphasize how I said 'HOW to BETTER say THINGS' rather than 'How to SAY better things'. Because the fact is that most of the changes that you need to make are changes in voice TONE and your body language. Even Hitch says it ' 95% of what you say is said before the first word comes out of your mouth'
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
JFHC!!! :cuss: Fvcking learn how to have a conversation and stop acting like a pvssy by trying to avoid it! 
What the hell do you think you are going to gain by not having this skill???
What the hell do you think you are going to gain by not having this skill???
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
"I need a real DJ in the area."
BULLSSHYT!!!
You do not NEED anyone. Let's say you do find some 'dj' all your gonna do is get this guy to hold your hand.
Really tho, go to the clubs and just WATCH. Watch how the guys approach the women, watch how the women react, keep note of what the guys are doing and what is getting positive / negative feedback.
Fact of the matter is that without first being able to approach it doesn't matter if you've got Wilt Chamberlain (example of someone that gets tang 24/7) telling you how to mack because once he's gone you won't do it.
BULLSSHYT!!!
You do not NEED anyone. Let's say you do find some 'dj' all your gonna do is get this guy to hold your hand.
Really tho, go to the clubs and just WATCH. Watch how the guys approach the women, watch how the women react, keep note of what the guys are doing and what is getting positive / negative feedback.
Fact of the matter is that without first being able to approach it doesn't matter if you've got Wilt Chamberlain (example of someone that gets tang 24/7) telling you how to mack because once he's gone you won't do it.
SELF-MASTERY
Banned
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2004
- Messages
- 1,971
- Reaction score
- 7
also. hitch was a lil byatch..
Remember how he hated on they guy who just wanted to bang that red haired chick..... He told eva mendes "guys like that are pigs, I would never help a guy like that." What kind of guy doesnt just wanna bang women???
Remember how he hated on they guy who just wanted to bang that red haired chick..... He told eva mendes "guys like that are pigs, I would never help a guy like that." What kind of guy doesnt just wanna bang women???
diablo
Master Don Juan
Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
JFHC!!! :cuss: Fvcking learn how to have a conversation and stop acting like a pvssy by trying to avoid it!
What the hell do you think you are going to gain by not having this skill???
darthsidious
Banned
<Darth Mode Off>
Without speaking? Body language can help.
Open body posture.
Masculine body posture.
Sexual body posture.
If you're skinny/fat this won't work - you have to open your mouth.
Without speaking? Body language can help.
Open body posture.
Masculine body posture.
Sexual body posture.
If you're skinny/fat this won't work - you have to open your mouth.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
Please understand that we are not here to hate on you.
We are here to administer alittle bit of tough love. You have to understand that nothing will change without you stepping up to the plate and saying "I deserve more than I am getting."
It's around that time where you will grab hold of your balls and you will start going up to women, and it won't matter. That is when you will start fvcking up with woman and having a blast doing it.
Once you've done that, then it will be time to search out a master, young padawon.
We are here to administer alittle bit of tough love. You have to understand that nothing will change without you stepping up to the plate and saying "I deserve more than I am getting."
It's around that time where you will grab hold of your balls and you will start going up to women, and it won't matter. That is when you will start fvcking up with woman and having a blast doing it.
Once you've done that, then it will be time to search out a master, young padawon.
first off, cheers to all the posts here. some times people just need a kick to snap out of the detours and take a bull by the horns. now, reading over what i just wrote, i don't really expect any of you to understand that, im confused myself. (just smile and nod)
you see, being a dj doesn't just help you get volunteers to drain your balls for you, but improves your life in many needed areas. since i've started, i've noticed a change in my goals, my outlook on life a sa whole and my business interactions. i'm a fvcking social shark on xtc!
the difference between being a dj and anything else is that a dj acts and works for himself. everyone else dreams and complains over free coffee and donuts.
i was in this situation myself not to long ago. ive been djing, sincerely learning the arts, and boot camping for about 5-6 months. in the beginning, i was just looking around for "quick fixes" and "detours" around my weaknesses. dude, it doesn't work. the more time you spend learning these cereal box tricks, the later you fix yourself like a man.
noitice all the populur sex icons at your school. when they talk, they lead. they're just down right cool and understanding people and when they talk to a group of people, everyone listens and the girls are captivated. they attract people, they don't spot out and seduce one on one.
right now, forget about talking to girls of your interest, instead, talk to everyone. learn how to get a feel of different personalities and common, intriguing interests. stretch those interests out of proportion and watch how people will react. read people and reflect their thoughts to them AND beam your genious as well.
i've heard it all before: body language, voice tone, eye contact, tongue scrapers. yea, these may be important, but if you can't fascinate her with you thought processing, somebody else will and THEN you'll realise the importance. take it from me, it sucks to have a chick loose interest in you just becuase of something your were purposely ignoring/neglecting in yourself. personally, i like to talk about
1) feelings( the rush i get from music, places i go to and how i "let go")
2) adventurous experiences (mountain climbing, travelling, putting a thin layer of cinamon oit all over the toilet seats a work)
3) things that demonstrate my masculinity (kickboxing, travel)
4) my current weak point, things that show my deep thoughts and intelligence (art, soceity and epiphanies)
as long as you show that you're sure of yourself and your talking like you really believe in what your saying and not talking like your seeking approval. remember that.
i'll tell you my best attraction tools right now. ****y and funny (BE PLAYFUL), role playing, mystery, and a big scar i got from falling out of a tree during a make out session.
on the note, hitch sucks. he was pretty game at the beginning but he turned into her lap dog somewhere after they ended the walkie talkie talk.
well, i helped you now you gotta help me with my current situation. check out the thread titled, "what do you guys do when a relationship gets boring? "
you see, being a dj doesn't just help you get volunteers to drain your balls for you, but improves your life in many needed areas. since i've started, i've noticed a change in my goals, my outlook on life a sa whole and my business interactions. i'm a fvcking social shark on xtc!
the difference between being a dj and anything else is that a dj acts and works for himself. everyone else dreams and complains over free coffee and donuts.
i was in this situation myself not to long ago. ive been djing, sincerely learning the arts, and boot camping for about 5-6 months. in the beginning, i was just looking around for "quick fixes" and "detours" around my weaknesses. dude, it doesn't work. the more time you spend learning these cereal box tricks, the later you fix yourself like a man.
noitice all the populur sex icons at your school. when they talk, they lead. they're just down right cool and understanding people and when they talk to a group of people, everyone listens and the girls are captivated. they attract people, they don't spot out and seduce one on one.
right now, forget about talking to girls of your interest, instead, talk to everyone. learn how to get a feel of different personalities and common, intriguing interests. stretch those interests out of proportion and watch how people will react. read people and reflect their thoughts to them AND beam your genious as well.
i've heard it all before: body language, voice tone, eye contact, tongue scrapers. yea, these may be important, but if you can't fascinate her with you thought processing, somebody else will and THEN you'll realise the importance. take it from me, it sucks to have a chick loose interest in you just becuase of something your were purposely ignoring/neglecting in yourself. personally, i like to talk about
1) feelings( the rush i get from music, places i go to and how i "let go")
2) adventurous experiences (mountain climbing, travelling, putting a thin layer of cinamon oit all over the toilet seats a work)
3) things that demonstrate my masculinity (kickboxing, travel)
4) my current weak point, things that show my deep thoughts and intelligence (art, soceity and epiphanies)
as long as you show that you're sure of yourself and your talking like you really believe in what your saying and not talking like your seeking approval. remember that.
i'll tell you my best attraction tools right now. ****y and funny (BE PLAYFUL), role playing, mystery, and a big scar i got from falling out of a tree during a make out session.
on the note, hitch sucks. he was pretty game at the beginning but he turned into her lap dog somewhere after they ended the walkie talkie talk.
well, i helped you now you gotta help me with my current situation. check out the thread titled, "what do you guys do when a relationship gets boring? "