How to Isolate and Kiss Close?

[lokariototal]

After reading a lot of books about seduction, making a lot of approaches, number closes, and so forth. I always thought to myself, Why don't I get laid? I Can get numbers very easily, approach girls easy, i feel confident, i make them laugh and really get interested about the other person and most girls like me a lot. But what was I missing? Why don't I get kisses and ****? I think my problem is that I thought that approaching, having a good time, and all that, the kiss somehow would fall "from the sky". I never thought I had to LOOK for it! SO MY NEW JOURNEY IS ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO KISS CLOSE. THE PROBLEM IS, IT FEELS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME. I HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER HOW IM GOING TO ACHIEVE THIS.
According to the dating "gurus" first I have to isolate her (which sounds like a very weird, random thing to do), gurus tell me that I should do something like this:

" Continue talking with just her and her friends will notice that you're both into a private conversation. When you see them noticing, then say to your lady that you want to show her something. Before she can answer, ask her friends if you can take her with you for a moment, but you'll be right back. "

My first problem is that That thing of "i want to show you something" sounds crazy as hell. The concept of isolation just sounds like something weird that WON'T WORK for me.. Why the hell would a girl want to sit alone with you!? She might thing you're a creeper. Anyways, I just don't believe a lot in it. Then, about getting the so called Kiss Close, I have NO idea whatsoever one should do this. I've read Kiss Routines, like the one from Mystery:

"You ask, "Would you like to kiss me?

If she says yes, kiss her.

If she says, "Maybe," ''Why?", "What do you mean" or "I donno" it means she does, but is shy about it. Reply with a gleam in your eye, "Let's find out..." *kiss* "

For me this is something only a CRAZY person would do! It just doesn't make much sense to me =S. How DO YOU ACHIEVE A KISS CLOSE?

 

[Accension]

When I read posts like this, I never know of the poster's serious.
If you're in high school, please go to the highschool forum.

Anyway, it seems you've gotten way sucked in to all this pick-up stuff.
It's absolutely great that you can go all the way to your sticking point of kiss closing, most guys can't so be proud.

You can ask her friends if you can take her but I know I'd normally just ask her to come with me and then she'd just tell her friends "just going to the bar with Accension, be back in a minute".

You don't need full isolation to kiss her.
If you like dancing, make her come dance with you.
Drinking, invite her to the bar whilst you refill your drink and talk with her there.

Both of those have worked wonderful for me.
Don't think you have to do all these silly magic tricks like Mystery.

If you're serious about this game thing, PM me anytime.
Personally, I don't use routines or tricks.
However, this 'routine' I do now and again http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166869 I think it suits your style.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Step 1. "Let's go over there". Where ever there might be, it needs to be away from everyone, just you and her.

Step 2. Talk a little, make her at ease and comfortable. Touch helps, build it up. Then kiss her. Notice how I don't ask. I observe what she wants when she wants it then go for it.


Simplify, and chill out. Quiet your doubts.

 

[Byezbozhniy]

well there's no point trying to help this guy

Are you saying that there's nothing to be learned from the books? I would never pay for any material myself, but there is some useful information in books. I know PUAs are frowned upon here, but a lot of the techniques and routines they use are fun.

And personally, I love Mystery ... even though he's a douche.