"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to handle virgins

CuddleJunkie

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So guys, some days ago I fvcked a virgin. Seduction was done that very night, and she didn't tell me it was her first time. Imagine my face when I see blood every fvcking where. Jesus. So anyhow, I was to much into the flow to back off, so I proceeded with my duties. The problem is, I felt extremely weird afterwards. Like, asking myself what the DonJuan procedure was.
Should I offer her to shower? Should I offer her breakfast? Should I offer her to stay the night? I did none of these, as I was a little repeled at the idea of a virgin having a ONS. Yes, I know, I still have old blue-pill ideas. So I just drove her to her place. But I've been feeling bad since then, like, I should have been more of a gentleman.
So just tell me your ideas! Did I do well? Should we be more beta with virgins?
@LiveYourDream , I guess your advice would be on point.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Von

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Just call her for a talk / coffee.

Talk about what she though, you got surprised, what she wants, tell her how you behave for ons usually and what you expect.

Call to defuse the stress from her, to make you feel good(like asking a girl out/approach), be clear and gentle.

Maybe she'lll become fwb, friend, or move on happy.

Personnaly: I tend to be more considerate, whiteknight but clear and with frame in these case. Remember, she wanted it
 

CuddleJunkie

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Well...she texted me to take a coffee, I said I was out of town with friends...I was not. Maybe I will text her back with the same offer, and see how I move it from there.
 

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She wants to talk, you got nothing to lose.

Reschedule, Have a talk with her and move on.

No need to create a pump and dump thread if you never intended on following. If you don't want to see her again for sex, it's understandable. I dont like to sleep with the same girl twice either.

Be at least be gentleman about it, create an ally not an enemy.

Also, don't make her regret meeting you.. cause that will come back (and it seems you already feeling it)
 

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I actually avoid virgin girls unless I genuinely like them. I know there is a fetish for virgin women but I don't partake in it. There's just something about having to pace myself because of the pain, potential blood, and her clinging to me after.

I would just be friendly to her if I were to.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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CuddleJunkie

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Well that's the problem. She didn't tell me... And this is not a pump and dump thread, just wanting to hear how you guys would handle this if it happens again!
 

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Not a fan of virgins, too much emotional attachment after the deed is done.

I follow the rule "Save a virgin, fvck a slvt"
 
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