"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to handle this situation with GF?

Dole

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I noticed a trend that my girlfriend keep's pulling off, last night was the third time. Here is what she does:

she was sick last thursday and texted me saying
her: I wish u were here! I need to be held. = )
me: Ill make your wish come true since ur sick...
her: really?
15 min later
me: yah in a bit
her: It's okay then. Another time.
I ignore her text, 15 minutes later she calls asks me what I am doing, its midnight and I was doing homework then she asked me if I wanted to come over.

Friday I went drinking for my friends bday and she did something else the deal was for her to come pick me up because I was drunk and cant drive to her house. she picks me up, I say something stupid ( "I have to tell you something, I need to go pee" ) and shes like ill drive you home and you can pee there. So she turns around and drives me home and I was like I dont wanna go home lets just go to your place which I can't remember what she replyed back. So once she got into my house she parks and she wants to talk about it I just open the door and tell her I have to go inside and piss, and shes like 'baby dont'. 20 minutes later she texts me saying:
her: I hope you feel alright in the morning. Drink lots of water! and u better call or it'll be war!!
I don't reply to her text and she calls me 15 minutes after that.
We talk and I ask her what shes doing, she told me she is laying in bed watching TV ( at 3 am ), so I told her to come pick me up so we go to her house, so she did.

Today she went to the doctors since she got a cold sore from. She called me after the doctors and we had a talk which in the conversation I laughed about the cold sore which was nothing intentional just a bad habit of mine. She got really mad at me so she texts me:
her: Your not making me feel better. Your making me feel worse. I'm so angry with u. It's insane
I called her to ask whys she's mad at me and what the hell did I do wrong, so she brought up the laughing comment blah blah I told her I will come see her around 8.
I was busy around 8 so I called her telling her I will leave my house in 15 minutes, she says ok to that. then she texts me 5 minutes later saying:
her: Just forget it. I'll see you some other time!
I ignore her text and she calls me 15 minutes later to see if I am still coming or not... Which I ended up going to her house.

Here are the possible solutions I came up with:
1) Ignore her text when she says 'forget about it, some other time' and wait for her to call me or text me to see if I am still coming ( then go to her house )
2) Next time when she does pull this off just tell her I already made plans and I am not coming or tell her I dont feel like coming anymore and that i will see her some other time like she suggested
3) Talk to her about it and tell her it annoys me

I am not sure which one would be the best approach also if anyone has any comments or other suggestions that would be great.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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It looks like she just wants you to jump when she says jump and the second you tell her anything remotely different than what she has in mind, she turns on you and tries to regain the upperhand.

I dunno dude, that's one messed up scenario.

I'm not sure you should be constantly ignoring her texts, though. No one's ever that busy and it's just kinda lame, if she's your GF.
 

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The Bad Ass Canadian said:
It looks like she just wants you to jump when she says jump and the second you tell her anything remotely different than what she has in mind, she turns on you and tries to regain the upperhand.

I dunno dude, that's one messed up scenario.

I'm not sure you should be constantly ignoring her texts, though. No one's ever that busy and it's just kinda lame, if she's your GF.
I agree with you on her trying to regain the upper hand
I only ignore her text when she pulls this off, nothing comes to my mind when she says 'forget it, some other time' other then the fact it get mets angry and I dont really want her to know that so I just let my self cool off, then I would text her half an hour later saying 'cool' or 'ok ttyl' but she has always ended up calling me within 15 minutes to see what I am doing and if I am still coming
 

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no offense, but your women is what we call a b*tch.

she either is use to getting what she wants when she wants, and expects nothing different.

she throws sh*t tests at you constantly and doesnt even realizes it.

"im so angry at you" " just forget it" "dont bother coming over" all these things she says contradict what she ends up doing in the end.

my advice is to stop falling into this trap playing into her games. keep giving her attention when she acts out and you will find yourself her lapdog.

good luck brother
 

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DavenJuan said:
no offense, but your women is what we call a b*tch.

she either is use to getting what she wants when she wants, and expects nothing different.

she throws sh*t tests at you constantly and doesnt even realizes it.

"im so angry at you" " just forget it" "dont bother coming over" all these things she says contradict what she ends up doing in the end.

my advice is to stop falling into this trap playing into her games. keep giving her attention when she acts out and you will find yourself her lapdog.

good luck brother
I agree 100% with this. They are nothing but stupid little tests that are completely unessecary.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She's trying to "train" you. They do that, reverse the tables or do something immediately.
 

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What they said and from now on, cut out the texting with her. Tell her if she wants to communicate with you, to call you. Texting has a purpose and one of them ISN'T to replace communication in a relationship.

Its for setting up dates, sending quick messages, not for relaying DEEP feelings that are in a relationship.

How long have you 2 been exclusive? How long were you dating prior?
 

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My course of action for next time when she pulls this off and then calls me later wanting me to come over is telling her that I will see her some other time. Correct?
 

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MacAvoy said:
What they said and from now on, cut out the texting with her. Tell her if she wants to communicate with you, to call you. Texting has a purpose and one of them ISN'T to replace communication in a relationship.

Its for setting up dates, sending quick messages, not for relaying DEEP feelings that are in a relationship.

How long have you 2 been exclusive? How long were you dating prior?
We've been fooling around for a month and dating for a week
What's the best way to do that? She texts me every day asking me how my day is going or what i am doing and then we text all day. One I can think of is that my phone bill is going to be too big from texting and for her to call me instead or just reply to her text's but without questioning about what she says.
for example:
her: How is your day going?
Me: Pretty good thanks.

but not
her: how is your day going?
me: pretty good and yours?
 

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Honestly, if this is something that happens almost every day, I'd dump her. There's some obvious issues here, on her part and it probably won't change. Personally, I would never put up with it and would have never let it get to this... but you don't give us enough background to know the whole situation but from just the little tidbits, I'd tell her to take a hike.

Trust me, once you get involved with a great girl that doesn't throw this crap at you, you'll laugh at yourself for ever having put up with it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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And texting is for buddies and co workers. My GF never sends a text, and when she does it's something along the lines of "call me when you get the chance" or "I'm headed with my girlfriends to the mall, will call you later" or something like that. There's never any convos over the bloody impersonal B.S. box.
 

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The Bad Ass Canadian said:
Honestly, if this is something that happens almost every day, I'd dump her. There's some obvious issues here, on her part and it probably won't change. Personally, I would never put up with it and would have never let it get to this... but you don't give us enough background to know the whole situation but from just the little tidbits, I'd tell her to take a hike.

Trust me, once you get involved with a great girl that doesn't throw this crap at you, you'll laugh at yourself for ever having put up with it.
She is a great girl ( my 34 year old friend DJ approved LOL ). This would be her only negative ( texting me all the time and pulling this crap ). I should also note that she has a habit of texting me something like I miss you, I have a crush on you,Ilike you a little bit, You don't know what you do to me every once in a while. when she does text me this, I don't mention anything about it just ask her about her day or what shes doing
 

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thanks alot haha
( knowing her she will then say something like "FINE" and then text me 5 or 6 hours later again )
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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