"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How to handle Smart Shy girls?

ColonyConfused

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i've been meeting a lot of shy girls since a while now, and i'm very poor at making connection with them, because the most exciting question only gets maximum 10 words out of their mouths and its a dead end answer, i can't make any new question out of their answers.
this new girl is about 7 out of 10, and i just want to spend some time with her and bang her of course.
we're like friends now, only that we don't talk so much, since she's not talkative, and acts shy around me, not to mention i normally get shy around shy people. :/.
any suggestion?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Just be comfortable being around her without having to talk much. She'll warm up to you eventually. It just takes some patience with shy girls. In the meantime, spin some other plates.
 

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First off, smart girls are attracted to intelligent men. Notice I didn't say "smart guys". I'm spinning 5 plates, 3 of them are school teachers with masters degrees. I'm very attracted to educated women and I've gotten pretty good at attracting them. They maybe a bit shy because they're not used to that type of attention. They're used to nerds awkwardly trying to talk to them while gazing at their shoes. All the same approach techniques work; eye contact, a cool and calm demeanor, valid self confidence. Talk to them about their line of work, about the things they're very knowledgeable about, talk to them about their interests; they'll open up and be more comfortable when they find themselves holding a meaningful conversation with you looking directly into their eyes. Remember to always be a gentleman; open doors, be polite, engage with them, show a little chivalry and they'll respond.
 

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I am interested in this thread as I am very attracted to the sweet, smart, shye type of girl.

Whats great though is that when you bang this type of girl and make them feel like a pornstar they will be attracted to you forever.

Simply Put.....Treat the nice, inexperienced, smart girl like a bad girl and make her feel like a sexy pornstar. Girls want what they do not have and want to feel like they are part of their own sexy fantasy.
 

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Young Stallion said:
I am interested in this thread as I am very attracted to the sweet, smart, shye type of girl.

Whats great though is that when you bang this type of girl and make them feel like a pornstar they will be attracted to you forever.

Simply Put.....Treat the nice, inexperienced, smart girl like a bad girl and make her feel like a sexy pornstar. Girls want what they do not have and want to feel like they are part of their own sexy fantasy.
But how do you do it? I had this trouble last night where a girl like that was clearly willing but tense - wouldn't relax and just generally inexperienced - not knowing what to do and very hesitant - I suppose it was the first date so its ok and to be expected with girls like this? Anyway how do you progress things to that level? Tell me how you escalate to it - whats the ladder? And what exactly do you mean by pornstar sex? Could you maybe PM me an example of what you did in one case - a case study - thanks.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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konmai said:
Just be comfortable being around her without having to talk much. She'll warm up to you eventually. It just takes some patience with shy girls.
I'm not a girl but I used to be shy and I can confirm this is true.
Basically it took me awhile to become comfortable around any new person.
Once I got used to them, I could talk to them like anyone else.
It just took a little time.

Like konmai says, it takes a little more patience. Maybe lower your expectations of your early interactions.
 

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Von_S said:
First off, smart girls are attracted to intelligent men. Notice I didn't say "smart guys". I'm spinning 5 plates, 3 of them are school teachers with masters degrees. I'm very attracted to educated women and I've gotten pretty good at attracting them. They maybe a bit shy because they're not used to that type of attention. They're used to nerds awkwardly trying to talk to them while gazing at their shoes. All the same approach techniques work; eye contact, a cool and calm demeanor, valid self confidence. Talk to them about their line of work, about the things they're very knowledgeable about, talk to them about their interests; they'll open up and be more comfortable when they find themselves holding a meaningful conversation with you looking directly into their eyes. Remember to always be a gentleman; open doors, be polite, engage with them, show a little chivalry and they'll respond.
Solid advice.

Also, I love teachers. They are intelligent, fun, and the biggest freaks in the sack.
 

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make them feel confident and comfortable, and open them up when talking to them.

personally, I don't dig shy women, I don't have time for less confident women since it would be a strain in a relationship. it sounds unPC, but I don't frankly give a ****. Mental health should be in tune before one dates, IMO.
 

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ilikecharlene said:
personally, I don't dig shy women, I don't have time for less confident women since it would be a strain in a relationship. it sounds unPC, but I don't frankly give a ****. Mental health should be in tune before one dates, IMO.
I prefer more outgoing women but for some reason I tend to attract the shy ones most of the time. It annoys me because I feel that I have to do so much more work to get/keep things going and they require more patience than I am typically willing to give women. That and oftentimes it can be difficult to tell whether they're being shy or disinterested right until the moment some other dude sweeps them up.
 

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Most shy girls seem to have a plethora of head issues. Same with ugly girls. You'd think that in going for hot outgoing girls you'd be making a trade off where you sacrifice a good personality for looks, but oddly enough it's quite the opposite.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Zerro said:
... and oftentimes it can be difficult to tell whether they're being shy or disinterested right until the moment some other dude sweeps them up.
i agree with this, its very hard for me to find out the right time to act serious when i'm working on a shy girl, oh and when she's also Smart, that'll put me even farther than "Having Control", or even Self Control.. :/.

the thing is, this girl, which is shy doesn't show much appreciation or excitement when i compliment her on her looks or clothes she's wearing, now i'm just Off!.. i'm planning to go out with some of my friends in wednesday, and i am going to be a DJ, going to work on a random girl, while still having that shy girl in my mind.
 

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Tomato,

I tried to give you this case study in email as you wished but it said it was too big, so here is my case study of a time I seduced a smart, shye, nice girl.

Case Study:
Hello Tomato,

I shall gladley give you a case study.

When I was 24 (Just about to end my University career) I was invited by the backup goalie of the women's team to a party put on by the school to celebrate the women's hockey team collegiate championship. (She went to a different university than I did).

I met a girl there who was very pretty but very shye, glasses and braces included. She was sitting at our table, I introduced myself to her and wound up finding her more attractive than the dance floor. We talked about different things, it was hard getting her to open up at first, she just wanted to talk about classes and such. I told her that she should have some fun and live it up and that there was obvously a little bad girl inside of her somewhere. She smiled at me and we kept talking. Its important to note that I showed up to this thing wearng my black biker jacket, chain, I was very jacked at the time, moreso than right now and was often told that I was imposing and ****ey, but nice and sweet at the same time.

Half way through the dance, I sipped my beer and told her that I was bored and that we should leave so she could give me a tour. I actually went to a different University.

She showed me around, then we walked outside, I went to cross the road, but she told me that it wasnt the crosswalk, so I said live a little my darling, as I softly took her hand". She still said no, but then she crossed the street anyways with me.

The night was fun and eventually we both left, I got her number and email and kept in touch with her on msn, flirting with her and telling her that she was secretly a bad sexy girl. She told me that no one had ever called her these things or talked to her this way.

I eventually lost interest to an extent thanks to a different girl who I started seeing, but I kept her on msn....the shye girl eventually got a shye boyfriend apparently they played video games together and went to the library and watched tv all the time.

One night when I was single again I saw the shye girl on msn and I asked her if she was busy the next night, she said "no and that she had a boyfriend and couldnt see me". I said "naaah, I think you have a friend who you call a boyfriend to make you feel like you have a boyfrend and you are not really that attracted to him". She replied "yeah I guess thats right".

So I made plans with her for the next night. I have a 3 location date philosophy.....you start out at dinner somewhere, then you go to a different place for desert, then a different place for either drinks, or private room kareokee, or go to an exciting event.

I picked her up and told her she looked very fine and if she wasnt with anyone I would jump her. She smiled and told me I was bad.

I playfully teased her and complimented her and made her feel goooood for the first two locatons. We ended up at a Martini Bar and she was sittng next to me, and suddenly I leaned into her, her body fell into mine and I lifted her up and put her on my lap and gave her a sip of her martni. Then I started scratching her back and talking to her, she was almost salivating she felt so good.

I could feel how much she liked me so I kept on pressng, I put the focus completely on her and gave her the adoration and the freedom she craved.

Then at one point she said "_insert name, I feel soo good" I then said, how else do you feel. She responded and said "I am so excited but bad at the same time". Why do you feel bad I asked her "because I have a boyfriend, but I want you and I am going crazy in your lap." I then put my hand through her hair and she took my hand, put it down and leaned in and kissed me. We started kissing alot, then we decided to leave and I basically took her back to her place and tore her apart all night long.

She broke up with her "boyfriend" 2 days later and went on a torrid affair with me....not so much even based on my looks, but because I made her feel sexy, bad and excited all at once. I made her feel what no man had ever tried to make her feel before.

I broke her heart about a month later and started seeing a different girl.

Thats what you do wth the shye, nice, sweet girls, you give them a fantasy where they can do what they want and feel free to be as sexy and as badgirl as they want.

Hope this case study helped.

-Young Stallion
 
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