"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to gracefully reject a girl's advances

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Suppose a girl is trying to make out in the car, you want to stop her to leave her wanting more for the next time. How would you decline her advances ?
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Smile and say "you don't think I'm that easy now do you?"

I'm going to assume that you're like me, and intereted in her for more than fvcking. By banging her early on, the risk is high that you'll lose interest. Nothing wrong with that. Just make sure you don't hold back too long

Pvssy is like money in the bank. Once you pull out of it, the interest is all gone.
 

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Smile and say "you don't think I'm that easy now do you?"

I'm going to assume that you're like me, and intereted in her for more than fvcking. By banging her early on, the risk is high that you'll lose interest. Nothing wrong with that. Just make sure you don't hold back too long

Pvssy is like money in the bank. Once you pull out of it, the interest is all gone.
This is good.
I usually say: "don't you think you're going too fast?".

I tend to wait for like 4 dates or more, and if i'm strong enough, i wait to do it as present for them for asking to be the girlfriend, it varies.
 

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If you don't give her anything you'll just look like you're not interested. I make that mistake all the time.

I'd give her one big passionate kiss, stroking her hair back slightly, holding her jaw etc. Like you do when you're about to go full make out. Then pull back as she's leaning back in for the follow up, say something like "That was good." and then give her a cunning smile and politely say your goodbyes, setting up something for next week.

She'll probably be sitting there thinking "Hnggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh" and then next date she'll be shaking with anticipation for that big snuggle.

Of course the discipline is stopping the kiss neatly in the first place rather than just carrying on.

(EDIT: Just for bragging rights I'll mention I once did this to a girl and after the kiss she dropped her handbag on the floor. All the stuff went everywhere. That's when you know you've done it right ;) )
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If you don't give her anything you'll just look like you're not interested. I make that mistake all the time.

I'd give her one big passionate kiss, stroking her hair back slightly, holding her jaw etc. Like you do when you're about to go full make out. Then pull back as she's leaning back in for the follow up, say something like "That was good." and then give her a cunning smile and politely say your goodbyes, setting up something for next week.

She'll probably be sitting there thinking "Hnggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh" and then next date she'll be shaking with anticipation for that big snuggle.

Of course the discipline is stopping the kiss neatly in the first place rather than just carrying on.

(EDIT: Just for bragging rights I'll mention I once did this to a girl and after the kiss she dropped her handbag on the floor. All the stuff went everywhere. That's when you know you've done it right ;) )
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Oh yeah yeah, i always give them something, i just try to avoid that whole "highschool make out sesh in the car" to build antecipation. Works specially well if she's very good looking.
 

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Why would you start making out with a chick in the car if you did not intend for things to move forward?
 

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This thread is alien to me, isn't it the girls job to do this? You guys are talking about tactfully engineering a relationship by setting up a standard she wouldn't usually adhere to, isn't this so wrong?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You need to work on your skill at controlling chicks. Nothing should be happening by accident
Not my fault if i give them tingles haha


This thread is alien to me, isn't it the girls job to do this? You guys are talking about tactfully engineering a relationship by setting up a standard she wouldn't usually adhere to, isn't this so wrong?
This is the point where you become the ultimate baddass, the day you look at the pretty girl and tell her "you're going too fast", know what that does? It quadruples their interest level that's what.
 

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Point taken, I'm usually too "in the moment" and impulsive for that approach.
 

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Point taken, I'm usually too "in the moment" and impulsive for that approach.
It takes massive amounts of self-control and it differentiates you from all the other stooges, that's why it works so well, it gives off the vibe that you went out with 12 playmates yesterday :D
 

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"Not now, I have a headache.":p
 

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"is private property, you trespassing!":p
are you guys seriously this unimaginative?

for me, most of fun of interacting with women is the creativity
lolz!!!:p

nailed it!!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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This is the point where you become the ultimate baddass, the day you look at the pretty girl and tell her "you're going too fast", know what that does? It quadruples their interest level that's what.
I agree with this if pulled off with a sarcastic smile but carried on seducing an hour later ....thats good teasing

dropping her off home right after saying it??, .......youd be nexted in the UK for feminine behaviour....

its a very fine line
 

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I agree with this if pulled off with a sarcastic smile but carried on seducing an hour later ....thats good teasing

dropping her off home right after saying it??, .......youd be nexted in the UK for feminine behaviour....

its a very fine line
I pull this off for at least 2-3 dates in a row before i decide to move forward, i have a strict 5 second max kiss rule. If you trully believe a woman will dump a man because he's hard to get, you're very naive. You're more likelly to get a stalker.
All the other chumps are dying to kiss more, not you, you pull out first.
 

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If you trully believe a woman will dump a man because he's hard to get, you're very naive.
hard to get is when you take them out for a brilliant time, you invest your **** in them like no other man ever has, they become invested in you!!

then you show her the value of your time, by making it scarce , NOT by telling her its too much too soon like some little girl

now youve put you count how long you kiss for 5seconds you are a very naive young lad giving it the big ......i presume you are dating young women or girls you could be a virgin im not sure with the way you type, good luck when you get in the adult pool

i agreed with you originally teasing is fine as long as its followed up shortly after
 

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hard to get is when you take them out for a brilliant time, you invest your **** in them like no other man ever has, they become invested in you!!

then you show her the value of your time, by making it scarce , NOT by telling her its too much too soon like some little girl

now youve put you count how long you kiss for 5seconds you are a very naive young lad giving it the big ......i presume you are dating young women or girls you could be a virgin im not sure with the way you type, good luck when you get in the adult pool

i agreed with you originally teasing is fine as long as its followed up shortly after
You and this sex addiction. God.
 

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You and this sex addiction. God.
Thats what men do, have sex with women, your on a Don Juan Forum.....

look up the words "Don Juan" it says "to have sex with many different women"

Plough the fields boy Plough the fields
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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