“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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joekerr31

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hey guys, thought i'd take a moment to list some of the key things you should be doing if you want to land chics.

feel free to add...

1. create opportunities

this sounds complicated by its really not. instead of going through the drive through at the bank. park your car and go in and use the atm inside the bank. you aren't going to bump into a woman 'sitting in your car'.

instead of getting your groceries on sunday morning, go tuesday - thursday during the evening when more single people are shopping. heck, instead of getting your groceries all at one store, split it up between 3 different stores. get 1/3 of your groceries at each store. you never know who you will bump into.

make a commitment to yourself to stop in to the book store once a week. you don't have to buy anything. you can just go in, see what books they have, and leave after 30 minutes.

when you're at the local mall park at the far end of the mall, so that you have to walk all the way through the mall to get to the store you want.

small things like this create opportunities. sure, most of the time nothing will come from them. but every once in a while lightening might strike.

2. be around women.

this sounds silly but try to take up activities that involve women. so if you are looking to get in shape maybe take a kick boxing course or a yoga class, etc.. join a gym. take a cooking class or a wine tasting class. etc. you aren't going to meet women playing video games.

3. flirt ALL the time using eye contact

most of the problems guys on here have is they are terrible flirts. this is one of my problems as well - im prone to just zipping through a store not looking at anyone and just getting what i need and rushing out. but you have to make an effort to look the women around you in the eye. just a glance, not a stare down. if you are attracted to them smile afterwards (trust me, they are watching).

flirt with women at work, waitresses, cashiers, etc. the more you do it the easier it will get.

eye contact is half the game. if you're able to muster up the courage to tell her you like her shirt, or hairstyle, or the glasses she's wearing, etc. then you've closed the circle. eye contact + compliment = 100% flirting. pretty simple really.

4. be ready to close

closing is NOT complicated. sure, some guys run game and make it a big complicated process. but really, closing is as simple as "hey, listen, i've got to run. but what do you say we continue this coversation over coffee sometime?"

5. Focus on the process, NOT the outcome

approaching women and dating has to be seen as entertainment. too many guys focus on the outcome - ie. they approach and date solely to get laid. all they can think about is getting laid (which is the fastest way not to get laid). focus on flirting, approaching, the give and take with another human being, etc. - don't worry about when the one for you will show up. just enjoy the process. most of the guys who never get women HATE the process. the guys who land women a lot LOVE the process. they don't rush it. they flirt, they show interest, they don't rush things, they aren't 'needy'.

6. Be yourself

not everyone will agree with this, but its my view. there's no need to hide who you are. heck, you could tell a woman your a recently recovering cocain addict and she will still be interested in you PROVIDED you have a positive, mature attitude towards your life now.

so you don't have to hide who you are to score women. but you MUST show confidence and a sense of being at peace with yourself as well as a man who has a purpose in life. even if you aren't successful now, you have to exhibit that you have the intention to be successful one day.


7. always look your best when out in public

i'm not saying you have to put on a suit. but when you're out and about try to look your best. no wrinkled shirts and ratty shoes kind of thing.

8. don't be afraid of letting a woman know you like her

so many guys don't want to let a woman know they like her via flirting until they first get the sense that the woman likes them. come on guys, this ain't going to work! you can't wait for a woman to basically give you the green light before flirting - you have to flirt first. and you can't worry about flirting and a woman then reacting oddly to you.

i've been shot down in the past (on cold approaches). and i gotta tell ya, i've never had a bad experience being shot down. basically every single time it has happened the woman was polite and actually appreciated that i asked her out.

a woman is not going to freak out on you just becuase you show a little interest. the only time they might do that is if you are really creepy looking and you scare them. otherwise they will enjoy the attention, and if they aren't interested they will steer the conversation in directions that make it very hard for you to ask them out. for example,

you: hey thats a nice shirt
her: oh thank you so much. my boyfriend gave it to me for christmas. (she's politely shutting you down).
you: he's got good tastes (you politely acknowledge that and move on).

9. let people know you are single and looking

a lot of single guys don't want to talk about being single. its like a nasty little secret they hide from people. someone asks them 'so are you dating anyone?" and they reply "sort of. its not serious yet.'

no no no. OWN who you are. reply with "yep. still looking for miss right. not easy to find now a days."

you'd be surprised how many people will immediately, or perhaps even a week or two later, start suggesting 'oh well i know this woman, she's just great. let me give you her number."

anyway guys, just though id list some basics that i think are helpful in upping the women you meet and date.

add to the list if you think ive missed anything.
 

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joekerr,

I really like your list. #3 and #7 stand out to me as particularly good tips.

I think having good presentation -- strong eye contact, good posture, decent clothes and good grooming -- is always essential to doing well with women, but especially when you're dealing with women you don't know very well or have just met. Like a cute girl you bump into at the grocery store, for example, or a woman you meet for the first time at a party.
 

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10. cultivate a network of female "friends"

Ooops, I forgot, that's taboo in these parts :nono:

Seriously though, I meet SOOOOO many women through chicks I already know. Really, you have no idea.

My social proof is through the roof. Half the battle is won before I've drawn my sword.
 

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STR8UP said:
10. cultivate a network of female "friends"

Ooops, I forgot, that's taboo in these parts :nono:

Seriously though, I meet SOOOOO many women through chicks I already know. Really, you have no idea.

My social proof is through the roof. Half the battle is won before I've drawn my sword.
To add to this, i will say that interest generates more interest.

Case in point: Last night I was out at the local bars, blasted out of my mind. Wayyy too gone to be rolling any game. I was just enjoying myself, trying to keep my composure!

At Bar A, a girl approaches me, chats me up and dances with me for a bit. I wasnt feeling her so i went to the bathroom to escape. Another girl, who approached me ealier this semester, sees me and dancing girl--instant lock on. She was cute, but i bounced before anything happened. Social proof.

At bar B, I get cold approached out of nowhere by a little 8 coed. She clung to me the rest of the night, while i just kept swaying and talking to people i knew--more social proof. Saw a girl from my work, walked up and kissed her, went about my business.

Now this is college, mind you, but it goes to illustrate the power of social proof. It drives girls CRAZY when they see other girls all over you, especially if they liked you to begin with.
 

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Colossus said:
To add to this, i will say that interest generates more interest.
No doubt.

A spark from one woman can ignite flames with many others.

My ace in the hole is my buddy's ex g/f.

She has a thing for me, but she knows that I'm not interested in a relationship, so all I've ever done is messed around with her. She's the "no sex outside of a relationship" type.

So she introduces me to all of her friends, and the friends see that she is attracted to me but she has no claim on me, so I end up hooking up with quite a few of them.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel. I don't know what she tells these girls prior to introducing them to me, but I have never had so much action come so easily from one place.

And all of these girls are gonna be at the halloween party tomorrow night. This is gonna be fun.....
 

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Plus, by having female friends, you understand women better and when you meet one that is into it is obvious because she is acting different from your friends. A common problem with guys that don’t hang out with women and not dating much that when they do get with a women they are lost as to what ever she is doing, what it means.
So could this be considered spinning plates? Or is plate spinning only applicable to women that there's a romantic undertone with and not to female friends or any female that's platonic? In this example, the girls you meet through your female friends are the only ones considered plates? Str8up what do you think?
 

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ketostix said:
So could this be considered spinning plates? Or is plate spinning only applicable to women that there's a romantic undertone with and not to female friends or any female that's platonic? In this example, the girls you meet through your female friends are the only ones considered plates? Str8up what do you think?
I think that's a question for Rollo. but I wouldn't consider them plates.

If a chick likes you I would think you could consider it SOMETHING.

I mean, the whole idea behind having plates is that you never get too hung up on one of them, so I suppose a female that you have LJBF'ed or one who has interest that you haven't pursued or one who have only gotten part of the way around the bases with could serve a similar purpose?

They all serve to keep the idea that you have options in the back of your mind, no?

This is where I get hung up on this whole plate thing. I can't imagine finding three different girls to date at the same time that I actually LIKE. I just don't see how you could find three women that are interesting enough, who LIKE you back, to date simultaneously. Sure, it happens, but how often?

When I think of this I think of what WOMEN do.....they have one (or a couple) of guys they fukk, one they go on dates with and play kissy face, and several more AFC orbiters who they keep around for attention.

You think she really LIKES all of these guys? One, yea. Maybe two. but she keeps the rest of them around and at arms length for validation. Women's version of plate theory.

Of course most of my female friends aren't standing in line to jump my bones, but there isn't a damn one of them that I have a LJBF relationship with, and i would go so far as to say that there is at least a little sexual chemistry between me and some of them.

I'm heading out to a party as soon as I finish this post. I'm bringing the 37 yr old AW (I decided she can fend for herself, BTW) and I already told her that there will be a bunch of girls there who I have either fukked or at least messed around with.

Are these women "plates"?

They each serve to let me know in the back of my mind that I have options and THEY all know that I have options. It all feeds on itself.

I'm interested to hear what Rollo says about this. I'm off.....
 

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This is where I get hung up on this whole plate thing. I can't imagine finding three different girls to date at the same time that I actually LIKE. I just don't see how you could find three women that are interesting enough, who LIKE you back, to date simultaneously. Sure, it happens, but how often?
Yeah same here, I can't imagine finding 3 or more that I actually like and would be simultaneously dating. I cant imagine too many other guys actually could either. But having female acquantenceances and associates that could benefit you, I can see. I guess I still don't even know what constitutes a plate and what's spinning, and when you should be spinning them.

You brought up a lot of interesting points..Girls spin plates a lot but this female version isn't the kind of plate spinning I could see any guy wanting or could really pull off if he wanted to.

A guess Rollo never made it all clear yet..

I'm heading out to a party as soon as I finish this post. I'm bringing the 37 yr old AW (I decided she can fend for herself, BTW) and I already told her that there will be a bunch of girls there who I have either fukked or at least messed around with.
Yeah it will be fun and interesting to see the analysis of how it all goes. Even if you don't bang the 37 AW, hell even if you don't end up banging anyone, I'm sure a lot of intersting and informative things will happen. It's going to be so good! lol
 

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ketostix said:
Yeah it will be fun and interesting to see the analysis of how it all goes. Even if you don't bang the 37 AW, hell even if you don't end up banging anyone, I'm sure a lot of intersting and informative things will happen. It's going to be so good! lol
Haha, the AW was pissing me off before she got there. She has been in a bad mood lately and I have to call her on the attitude.

Anyway, she got to the party and by that time I was in full swing, so she was off on her own.

I was fukking with her all night. I thought it would be fun to c0ck block her for a change, lol.

The crazy thing is that pretty much all of the women I THOUGHT were going to be there didn't show. So the dynamic was a bit different than I expected, but I had a fun costume so it made it easy to interact with quite a few women whom I had never met.
 

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Nice list joekerr and good assist on #10 from str8up.

I'm reading the list a couple of times and you guys nailed it pretty straight on.

The list is excellent because the advice on the list isn't a sequenced number of steps, rather, every point on the list helps to make the other points better.

#5 - is great advice. I think too many guys (myself included) worry about the outcome rather than the process. We're worried about rejection, about success, about where to take her if she says yes, worried about if she's even worth the time, worried about so many things that we psych ourselves out of the process. Enjoy the hunt and don't worry about the kill.

#1 - I stress this point to my buddies everyday! Man, I'm glad you put it out there in clear terms. We all have friends that complain about not being able to meet great women. Yet, these are the same guys that would rather play video games and watch internet porn on a Friday night than put on a nice dress shirt, jeans, and blazer to try the new modern euro-asian restaurant that just opened up. Opportunity doesn't just fall in your lap. Most times its created. Great tip joekerr
 

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joekerr31 said:
3. flirt ALL the time using eye contact

most of the problems guys on here have is they are terrible flirts. this is one of my problems as well - im prone to just zipping through a store not looking at anyone and just getting what i need and rushing out. but you have to make an effort to look the women around you in the eye. just a glance, not a stare down. if you are attracted to them smile afterwards (trust me, they are watching).
I don't think you necessarily have to smile at them, I think a long glance(not to be confused with a stare down) can do the trick as well in letting her know you're interested. Think of every time a chick gives you the long glance..don't you associate that as a sign of her being interested? I mean yeah there are the exceptions where you look like someone she knows, or look like a family member, etc., but 99% of the time she's glancing at you because she's interested in you.

But overall, I agree, it's better to smile, because it confirms you're interested, and you're more likely to get better results(a smile back which lets you know she's interested in you also. Not that she won't smile at you if you don't smile at her, but you're more likely to get a smile back from her if you smile).
 
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My favorite pointer that I can give is..."AAA" - always assume attraction.

If you always assume that girls are attracted to you, then you'll have much more confidence when approaching them, etc. Of course there's work you gotta do to get to the point where you can do this...be in outstanding shape, look good, have a swagger, etc.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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But when I say smile, you don't wanna look like a dork either. That's why a smirk type smile is your best bet.
 

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STR8UP said:
10. cultivate a network of female "friends"

Ooops, I forgot, that's taboo in these parts :nono:

Seriously though, I meet SOOOOO many women through chicks I already know. Really, you have no idea.

My social proof is through the roof. Half the battle is won before I've drawn my sword.
If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous
Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat me ?
:rock:
 

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If you DO cultivate some female friends, don't try to hook up with them. That's like sleeping with your sister.
 
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