"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to get to the next level of game

Dman101

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I'm 6'4 very good looking but I cant get girls.

Pros: Tall, good looks, nice car, apartment, college degree, good job, money, nice car, very smart and intellectual.

Cons: Get nervous around people, stay home most of the time, play a ton of online poker, pot belly, shy, bad conversationalist, cant close the deal.

For the past year or 2 all I do is go to work, come home, sit on the computer playing poker or reading stuff, then when the weekend comes around I go to clubs Friday or Saturday nites, and spend the rest of the time online.

I cant dance at all so girls come up to me sometime and try to dance and its not pretty. Finally, I've started to approach a little, and its actually worked. I may just grab a girl ask her what her name is, where shes from, then I just say can I call you sometime, and i actually get the number, but I slack off and dont make anything happen.

I used to meet tons of girls online in person, but I slackd off on all of them and lost them because I wouldnt call and keep up with them. This is very frustrating because I still have crushes on some of them including a girl I was orbiting/dating for about 5 months and this girl was my perfect type liked me wanted to be my girl but I slackd and havent seen her in 2 months. I just cant close the deal with girls for some reason. I'm afraid to be sexual and instead just take girls out and hang out too much.


I"m extremely motivated to change my life ASAP so that I can start seeing results and feel better about things. I"m 25 now and will start going to the gym to get a great body. What kind of advice can you guys give me to help me break out of this rut and start getting beautiful women and actually keeping them.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I posted this on another thread so it's not completely on topic, but is still extremely valuable.

Bladerunner said:
Seriously, lift weights. I can't think of a single thing that will change your life and give you confidence and pride in yourself than that.

There's a ton of good advice in the Fitness section of this forum. Also, buy two books on the subject, these:

Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. It's the holy bible of weight training and is worth many times what it costs.

Practical Programming by Mark Rippetoe. If Starting Strength is all the lessons of weight training, Practical Programming teaches you how to apply them.

Also, simply getting a good grasp on the material in these two books will give you a level of expertise in the gym beyond most of the jocks I'm sure you know, and you'll have something you can legitimately say you're knowledgeable about and can discuss with others.
 

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the best thing to do is just dive right in man. Go to the mall and just talk to women. Always go for the close. ask for her number, if she wants to come help you pick out shoes, if she wants to come back to your place, etc. Just get out and do it.

You said your shy. I can relate.

BUT...

that shyness goes away the more you do this stuff! Seriously man go to the mall and make yourself talk to at least 10 women. And i bet you'll probably find that by the time you've chatted up number 7 and 8 you'll be having so much fun you'll be game to talk to 20 women!

the hardest part is just getting started. Force yourself to go out and build from there

good luck
 

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Lack of a good physique is holding you back. Try to find an activity that you enjoy to burn off the extra pounds. I try to advocate boxing, martial arts, and other fighting sports as good ways to lose weight and learn something useful at the same time. Do whatever you enjoy; that is the key.
 

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All a guy 6' 4" has to do to look cool dancing is stand still hovering above everyone and move your arms around like some of these black guys do, pushing your hands out and or down "what what" style. Hard to explain. But you dont really need to dance in a normal way.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DanelMadr

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Dman101 said:
I'm 6'4 very good looking but I cant get girls.

Pros: Tall, good looks, nice car, apartment, college degree, good job, money, nice car, very smart and intellectual.

Cons: Get nervous around people, stay home most of the time, play a ton of online poker, pot belly, shy, bad conversationalist, cant close the deal.

For the past year or 2 all I do is go to work, come home, sit on the computer playing poker or reading stuff, then when the weekend comes around I go to clubs Friday or Saturday nites, and spend the rest of the time online.

I cant dance at all so girls come up to me sometime and try to dance and its not pretty. Finally, I've started to approach a little, and its actually worked. I may just grab a girl ask her what her name is, where shes from, then I just say can I call you sometime, and i actually get the number, but I slack off and dont make anything happen.

I used to meet tons of girls online in person, but I slackd off on all of them and lost them because I wouldnt call and keep up with them. This is very frustrating because I still have crushes on some of them including a girl I was orbiting/dating for about 5 months and this girl was my perfect type liked me wanted to be my girl but I slackd and havent seen her in 2 months. I just cant close the deal with girls for some reason. I'm afraid to be sexual and instead just take girls out and hang out too much.


I"m extremely motivated to change my life ASAP so that I can start seeing results and feel better about things. I"m 25 now and will start going to the gym to get a great body. What kind of advice can you guys give me to help me break out of this rut and start getting beautiful women and actually keeping them.
Hi there,

I can sort of relate to you as I am 6"4 myself and probably good looking too.
One would think everything is walk in a park for you. And that is one of the problems, man. You should be performing well....there is lot of expectations and pressure from others an mainly from yourself too. If some short ugly guy is rejected, well, shyt happens. If a guy like you get rejected....huge blow. You have great potential and you still fail.
Because of your height people expect you to be brave. Because of your looks people expect you to be great seducer.\

Basically you are most likely sabotaging yourself...shooting yourself in the leg. You leave them before they leave you.

And you know what. That is true but it is only a fakking rant. It is solving nothing. You need to learn not to put too much pressure on yourself or your performance. Fakk it, man. You don't need to be perfect...to live up to their dreams.

Most of all you need to realize that the reason you don't close the deal is you are a fakking pvssy. You have self-image issues and maybe some sex related issues, cause you are afraid to be sexual. Admit it to yourself and you are healed. Be sincere to yourself.

Look, i don't mean to disrespect you, I really do mean it as an advice.

Be a Man. Not a self pitting pvssy who half - admits he is a pvssy and gives up. Be a Man who is sincere to himself in order to improve.

Hit a gym. Sure a belly is not nice. But don't wait until it is gone, because you can have girls even with a pot belly. Learn from SS what is OK to say and what is too much. Learn what are the Red flag signs of your behavior. Always ask yourself....is this what a Man would do / think / said? If you feel like an idiot saying something to a girl than maybe she thinks you are idiot too :)

good luck
Get rid of the fears. Fear of rejection. Performance anxiety.
 

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The Mad Ghost said:
This is a question soley for the guys who have achieved their pinnacle, who are actually on the NEXT LEVEL OF GAME.

What is the NEXT LEVEL?
For him it seems to be the F-close.

Then goes quality LTR or many other F-close (depends on a guy).
Then lots of happy kids, hot wife sexing with you whenever you want.
Then teaching your kids the game and more sex and support from your still hot wife.
Then funeral with lots of crying kids.
Then burning in hell with lots of sex with Satan for not being enough of a Nice Guy.:trouble:

:-D
 

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Hey man.... I can totally relate, life is a struggle for us beautiful people :)

Work on your general personality, build up your charisma, your comedy, your story telling, learn to be chatty.

Also, get a few routines of stuff to say, and just do it.
 

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I'm 6'4 very good looking but I cant get girls.

i posted somethign about this already

findin your way! a story

time to look deep inside and unleash your true self..

"I want a solution ASAP!"

DISCLAMER: THERE IS NO "INSTANT" SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEMS

society has condiitoned us for instant gratification, thinking that byuing they shyt will make us happy. no wonder some people feel empty inside...lokiong for the outside to satisfy the need of achievement, progress, study and the benefits of collecting the fruits of hard work and dedication....
ah i digress...

the thing you are asking for is a LIFETIME change, heck ill even say an eternal improvement. you MUST progress. jealousy is seeing others better than you and shooting yourslef in the leg for not trying your best.
we always want to improve, life, even life forms themselves which we call animals and plants look for that, sucess in many levels...

NEVER GIVE UP! -John Cena
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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