How to get respect from a woman

[scrouds]

Respect, like loyalty and logic are male constructs.

Best you can hope for is a woman that plays along with those ideals.

 

[goundra]

u fvcking idiot. you really "think" that there are 27 females for every male? you are a moron if so. it's about 53-47, female to male, mostly because of slightly higher male mortality rate.

 

[PlayHer Man]

The concept of respect requires from someone to consider someone's effort and/or be grateful for that.

Since most of women cannot tell sh1t from choccolate when it comes of behaving while taking for granted anything anyone does to them, the real base of respect do not exist.

What I suggest to aim at is not "respect" but more "being seen at the top of the food chain", this is much more congenial to females in general.

If you screw up your country but manage to get elected again you're on, if you fix your country then leave because you can no longer have the mental strengh to rule it right then you're off, hope this example is clear.

YEP.. very true. I remember back in 2008 when Hillary Clinton was running against Obama and a lot of women I know hated Obama and thought he was trash.

Guess what? Now that he has won two elections he is their God. Those same women who were trashing him before are willing to lick his ass today. Is it because of his polices? NO. Is it because of what he has done in this first term? NO. Its because he WON and he is "on top" in their eyes. Plain and simple.

Women like winners and hate losers. They don't care how you won, why you won or who you are as a person. Women ALWAYS assume whoever is on top is "God" and worthy of their vagina.

 

[romanticman]

I'm still trying to figure out the exact recipe, although I've made some great strides in this area. After going thru one failed marriage, multiple short term girls, and a few long term relationships, here is what I have realized:

1. Respect isn't something embedded in a woman's DNA like it is a man's. Respect, honor, loyalty....those are all male traits. I've finally had to accept this.

2. Be very "firm" from the start. Define what is acceptable/not acceptable right away because once the cat is out of the bag its not going back in. You might as well throw in the towel.

3. Just go ahead and be yourself from the start. If you aren't romantic, don't pretend to be. If you are a cheap/thrifty bastard, don't pretend that you like spending money. If you like to fart and drink beer then let it rip on the first date!

4. When she pulls b.s. on you, call her out on it. Yes I know we are all typical guys who prefer to just let things slide and not make a big deal out of an issue because we don't want the **** storm of drama that comes with it, but just realize that all of their kicking and screaming is just "noise". Most of it doesn't mean a damn thing. Letting her get away with poor behavior breeds more poor behavior.

5. Treat them like dogs. Reward them with affection when they do good, scold them when they act out. Eventually all you will have to do is raise your hand and they will know whats up.

6. Understand most women are like small children. Treat them so.

7. Set the expectations high. Oh sure she will ***** and moan but let her, they are all natural complainers. She will still try to meet those expectations.

8. Let her care more about the relationship than you do. The minute you care more about it than she does will be the beginning of the end. Women are the needy ones who need relationships, so be a man and let her be a woman.

The one who cares the least always has the most power. You might think this is harsh but it works. Its kind of like buying a car. The minute you get needy and start caring too much about buying some new vehicle you will get screwed. The ones who get the best deals and what they want are the ones who don't care and have the ability to walk away when they don't get what they want.

9. Never be afraid to walk away. Once she figures this out she'll keep her trap shut more often.

10. Don't go over board on compliments on how great she looks, etc.

11. Don't ever buy them new boobs unless you want to get rid of them.

12. Kum in her hair.

The one who cares the least has the power. So very true and some kum in the eyes helps as well

 

[Colossus]

Beautiful list from Howiestern, and more gold from Aristippus.

To expound a little on that, I'll add what I've amassed from my experience dating, banging, and LTRing scores upon scores of women in the last 10 years:


-If you go through life expecting to find some rare women who will NEVER disrespect you, you are going to have a disappointing life with women. Even the most sparkling of gems will diss you at times and test the limits of your tolerance. It's just in their nature. YOU have to decide what's a correctable offense and what is grounds for dumping her.

-On that note, some stains just dont wash out. If you let a serious offense slide by, you may be Dunbar, because you have demonstrated you are inconsistent and will let some things slide. Therefore, like a child, she will always be testing you.

-Remember this maxim about men and women: Men primarily desire RESPECT; while women primarily desire LOVE. Dont expect them to just "get it". You have to teach them.

-Many women are disrespectful cvnts because men ALLOW them to be, and we live in a culture that fosters this attitude. There is no fear of physical reprimanding anymore, and even calling a woman out at the wrong place and time can get you in trouble (think work, social gatherings, etc).

-Start with good stock. You really cant turn a ho into a housewife, so select women who possess a bounty of good qualities from the beginning.

-HAMMER the first offense. You need to be really decisive and firm with her when she first disses you, but without flying off the handle.

-Be GOOD to her. Be fair, and try to make your existence together as much good feelings as you can. The vast majority of the time you should be having fun, making jokes, hanging out, and generally looking forward to seeing each other. Of course this is largely a function of your choice in women, but happy females are easier to manage.

-HIGH INTEREST. Highly interested women will be much more wary of losing your favor.

-Understand that there is nothing you can do to prevent a woman from disrespecting you. The only thing you have control over is your own actions. You can encourage respectful behavior with boundaries, and most of the time highly interested women will treat you respectfully. But once you start thinking you can prevent this from ever happening, you are deluding yourself.

-Dont ever be afraid to walk away. Always know in the back of your mind that you may reach a crossroads with her when you have to walk. THIS is your trump card as a man, but it comes at a cost. You leave the good things behind too. The sex, the affection, the companionship. It takes balls.




Once when I was young, my father told me something to the effect of "Treat any woman like queen and you'll win her favor".

Well dad, I love ya, but you're wrong on that one.

I say, "Treat a woman like a queen and she'll treat you like a servant. Treat her like a dog, and she'll beg you for a treat."

But I mean 'dog' in a positive way. You love your dog. You love to spend time with him, play with him, and have his affection. But sometimes your dog needs discipline. He needs boundaries, or he'll lead you wherever he wants to go then sh!t all over your house. Similar with women and respect. They need clear boundaries and clear consequences.

 

[GotED?]

I have been on SS for over 6 months and I have to say this is probably the most important thread so far that every guy on here need to adhere to. There's truth to every poster on this thread, and I will pitch in my experience after 40 years, most of them beta-fagg0t like and I am guilty as charged.

However I have learned the secret to dealing with women after all the trial and error, I will only give you the Golden Rules I abide by, the rest fluctuates depending on the woman you are with (some chronological order in this)


RULE #1 - Start with GOOD STOCK as Colossus said. It is much harder to re-design a HO and teach her how NOT to open her legs to everyone other than yourself. This takes many 'NO's to women in dating before you accept the right one (that's right, dont' settle for 'convenience' of women coming into your life and fall in love with them, be selective)


RULE #2 - Establish your frame early on. You can never do it again later. Women don't want to have their nails painted pink and then later forced to get them painted blue just because you decide on it. Establishing frame means NIPPING SH!T behavior in the bud. Some poster said, women are like children - mentally once you get to know a woman intimately, there is ALWAYS a youthful, girly side to them ALL. They just put on the mask of adult-likeness during the daytime and with strangers. They require conditioning, like Pavlov-The-Dog, but you need to figure it out with HBx-The-****t and make her behave.


RULE #3 - Establish a deep emotional connection. Another poster mentioned he has p0rn ridden women for hours and still he earned no respect. This is TRUE. Women need a deep emotional connection with a man to hold respect and loyalty. You have to provide some vulnerability and allow her to access some deep parts of you, but only by perception (perception IS reality). Make her think she's got SOME of you but never all of you (or else you are fooked). This is not an AFC move. This is critical if you want a LTR. But if you are into hump & dump, don't come on here crying about not getting respect. You are picking to ride a Pinto instead of a Cadillac and expect leather interior for your soft arse.


RULE #4: Generate the perception of value in her eyes. You MUST always create the perception that you are highly wanted and valued by all women. Women are fiercely competitive with each other. They all want the man that ALL women want. You need to (not by actual action or else that will generate huge insecurity, some women lack confidence and will dump you because they don't think they can keep your interest) talk and act that you ALWAYS have options and other women and she's not 'THE ONE' bullsh!t . And you should be never afraid to walk away from her (or threaten to) as a lot of posters have said.


RULE #5: Generate positive feelings with her. A woman's hamster spins rapidly and out of control most of the time. Women having to join the workforce just in the last 50-60 years is not something natural for them. Women by nature can not handle stress and work responsibility the way men are designed to take mentally and emotionally. You need to make sure you = FUN and HAPPY in her experience with you. Never let boredom settle in, or else your arse will be out the door soon enough. Always laugh together, enjoy fun things together; it doesn't require money always, just good companionship. Women wants a man who will SPEND time with her, period.


RULE #6: RESPECT CHEMISTRY. That is the 'unknown' which is irreplaceable. Sometimes you just have to understand, some woman you are with has just that natural 'hotness' for each other and you just can't get enough. While other women, you have to imagine another women in your mind while you are doing it to get it up and going. Sometimes, despite all the SS-uaveness you have in your blood, it just won't work. CHEMISTRY is that unpredictable attraction (or lack of) that will determines how much effort you need to put in, or to let it go. It is totally out of your hands.


RULE #7: RESPECT AND LOVE YOURSELF. Don't ever let anyone treat you worse than your own dog.



With respect,

Exodus

 

[The Duke]

Aristippus- thanks for the bit about "meme's", I learned something today!

I've witnessed the same thing you mentioned in regards to white knighters and the effects they have on women. My girlfriend has been with a few of those chumps and has told me about the things she would get away with. Every now and then she lets me know that she appreciates my "alpha-ness" for lack of a better term and she is happier because I stand up to her and help her to do right. She is fully aware of right and wrong, however she got used to living a life where the white knights let her get away with disrespectful behavior. Now I am helping her reprogram the way she thinks/reacts/looks at issues. Like you said, I wouldn't be investing the time and energy if I wasn't starting out with good material underneath the debris on the surface.

 

[The Duke]

Just wanted to say I'm honored to be amongst some great company here. I feel like I'm among some old war veterans who earned their stripes. Been there, heard it all, and got the stories and scars to prove it.

 

[PlayHer Man]

RULE #5: Generate positive feelings with her. A woman's hamster spins rapidly and out of control most of the time. Women having to join the workforce just in the last 50-60 years is not something natural for them. Women by nature can not handle stress and work responsibility the way men are designed to take mentally and emotionally. You need to make sure you = FUN and HAPPY in her experience with you. Never let boredom settle in, or else your arse will be out the door soon enough. Always laugh together, enjoy fun things together; it doesn't require money always, just good companionship. Women wants a man who will SPEND time with her, period.

Great stuff overall GotED? Very good stuff.

I only take some issue with rule #5 above.

I don't believe that you as a man should be responsible for the emotional health of another adult. You should not have to be her dancing clown with the job of keeping her "happy" at all times. To me.. THAT is AFC. Oh no! Can't make my girl mad! Can't let her feel sad or bored or else she might suck another man's c0ck!

This is why I'm more in the "hump and dump" crowd and less in the LTR crowd.

To be in a successful LTR with a woman.. you have to give more than you will get in return. You have to pedestalize the woman on some level. Its easy to say "make her earn it".. but this only works for so long. Eventually... by committing to you and giving you regular sex.. all women become ENTITLED.

They will believe they own you and its your job to prove over and over to them that you are still "worthy" of her p*ssy.

A woman believes she only has to "prove herself" ONCE.. but a woman also believes a man must prove himself on a daily basis.

 

[AlphaGhost]

Great stuff overall GotED? Very good stuff.

I only take some issue with rule #5 above.

I don't believe that you as a man should be responsible for the emotional health of another adult. You should not have to be her dancing clown with the job of keeping her "happy" at all times. To me.. THAT is AFC. Oh no! Can't make my girl mad! Can't let her feel sad or bored or else she might suck another man's c0ck!

This is why I'm more in the "hump and dump" crowd and less in the LTR crowd.

To be in a successful LTR with a woman.. you have to give more than you will get in return. You have to pedestalize the woman on some level. Its easy to say "make her earn it".. but this only works for so long. Eventually... by committing to you and giving you regular sex.. all women become ENTITLED.

They will believe they own you and its your job to prove over and over to them that you are still "worthy" of her p*ssy.

A woman believes she only has to "prove herself" ONCE.. but a woman also believes a man must prove himself on a daily basis.

I agree, cause I deal with this myself. I feel like once your in a LTR, the man is usually the one who has to continue proving himself and if it loses control, that when the lady begins feeling entitled. But, I don't see a problem with that if its being reciprocated. I won't mind "pedalizing" my lady every now and then (NOT ALL THE TIME) cause I see she does the same to me from time to time.

To OP, the key to getting and maintaining respect with a women if you ask me is, not being afraid to speak up when something bothers you, displaying that your a man of your word, so if you say something ONCE and its done again she shouldn't expect you to have a discussion about it again. MOST important though is showing that you can move on JUST as easily as she thinks she can.

If a women still disrespect you, then she isnt worth the effort of keeping her around. THESE HOOOOOOOOs ARENT WORTH IT

 

[XR 600]

I will give you an example.

Years ago I started dating this really hot chick who obviously had a lot of dudes chasing her. The kind of chick who drives guys nuts.

It was probably our 4th date and I guess she started feeling comfortable around me so instead of being on her best behaviour she pulled some bullshyt.

I picked her up and the plan was to get dinner. She gets in the car and asks where we are going. I tell her XYZ. She says in this bratty tone "No I don't wanna go there". So I say okay how about QRS. Same response but even more bratty. I suggest a third place and she shoots that down too.

Now most guys she dated would probably say "Fine where do you want to go?" and it would probably start a fight. She would get her way and at that very instant her respect would be lost.

Instead I just swung the car around and parked right back in front of her place. She asked what are you doing? I said "Get out I don't wanna hang out with you if you're acting like that."

Right away she started apologizing profusely and almost begging me not to kick her out. We ended up going to XYZ and throughout the entire time I dated that chick (about 6 months) she never once tested me again.

You need to nip that sh!t in the bud RIGHT AWAY! The moment respect is lost the relationship is OVER. How many guys lose respect right away and then get strung along for months or even years while she is basically looking for a bigger better deal from some other guy who demands respect?

Be prepared to walk at the first sign of disrespect no matter how small. Make a point of telling her that sh!t won't fly with you ever. Watch how your relationships with women will change.

Most guys are afraid of losing her at this point but if you don't stand up for yourself you've already lost her anyways. It's a win-win.

Love it.

 

[timmylivingalie]

I would like to start a positive thread, on how to get respect from the woman we are beginning a relationship with. Tired of repeatedly experiencing, and reading of others having this problem and not really knowing how to do this with today's femcvnts.
This seems to be a "thing" with all men @ some point in their relationship with a woman. So lets try to figure out a good game plan we can use to de-fuse this bomb. Any ideas?

Be alpha

 

[Knight's Cross]

Ahhh, the old respect challenge. I tend to agree with the posters above that you really cannot teach respect. You can demand obedience. That's about it. Genetically women are wired to constantly dish out $hit tests, which are in a form disrespectful. So can you expect respect? No, but you can demand obedience to your rules. If those are violated, then off she goes. I remember the last time I let a chick bust my hard boundaries, I regretted that action. I could have saved months of my life by not allowing such behavior.
So, my rule is establish boundaries. Now there are some soft and hard boundaries. Lies, disrespectful comments or actions...these are all types of non-negotiables. Soft boundaries...things that don't match up to how you live but are not disrespect. As in I dated a chick that was messy. Now is that disrespectful? Not necessarily, she even went out of her way to be "non-messy" when at my place.
Choose your hard lines and stick to them. If a woman violates these, you have but one choice. Get rid of her. Once they violate the rules you have lost frame. If you keep her, it's now her frame. You are but along for the ride.
KC

 

[zenaddict]

I would like to start a positive thread, on how to get respect from the woman we are beginning a relationship with. Tired of repeatedly experiencing, and reading of others having this problem and not really knowing how to do this with today's femcvnts.
This seems to be a "thing" with all men @ some point in their relationship with a woman. So lets try to figure out a good game plan we can use to de-fuse this bomb. Any ideas?

woman: I am therefore love me

man: I do what I want

man is action, woman is reaction

wanting respect so you can start feeling good about yourself is YOU reacting to the WOMAN, which should be the other way around, therefore it`s logical that she isn`t considering you worthy because you asskiss every single emotional crap of hers

and do you think thousands of years ago there were relationship melodramas and dating coaches? :crackup:

http://wa1.cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2013/1/16/283252/Conan-Barbarian.jpg

 

[my1ken]

You do realize that ''today's women'' see *respect* as a sign of weakness from a man?

 

[Burroughs]

You do realize that ''today's women'' see *respect* as a sign of weakness from a man?

That's why its best not to allow women to *see* anything

I accomplish this by putting semen in her eyes :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

 

[DonJuanabe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCJ9l-2FIc

 

[synergy1]

Good lord, way too much negativity regarding women on this thread. disrespectful *******s exist on both sides here, not just women. Maybe just because women disrespected YOU doesn't mean that for the rest of us. Lets focus on what we can do:

Men lead and women follow. This dynamic is easily seen in social circles where women make their friends based on the interactions guys have. In my own life, I have seen multiple women become bestest friends because us (as guys) introduced them and led the way. With that in mind, rather than try and enlist respect directly from women, its much easier to earn respect of the group ( read men) - women will follow without question. When I go out and socialize with groups of people I don't know, I focus first on earning some sort of respect from the guys in the group. Once that happens, the women will look at you with puppy dog eyes since they see their male friends looking up to you in a way, which in turn means they will follow.

Its not to say be a kiss ass. Rather, be a good conversationalist, knowledgeable, and likable. Don't be the dude who ONLY focuses on the women of the group as this will earn you disrespect from everyone, which in turn means women won't find you attractive in that way. We all know who we are talking about .. the guys who come up to your friends and only focus on the women. You dislike them. They are dislikable. Conversely, think of random people who actually added something interesting to an otherwise regular evening. If I wasn't trying for the chick in our social group, I'd try and set them up...why not?

There needs to be less venom towards women, and more of what works. Not all women are as evil as depicted ( there are some real pieces of work out there for sure).

 

[SteR]

Good lord, way too much negativity regarding women on this thread. disrespectful *******s exist on both sides here, not just women. Maybe just because women disrespected YOU doesn't mean that for the rest of us. Lets focus on what we can do:

Men lead and women follow. This dynamic is easily seen in social circles where women make their friends based on the interactions guys have. In my own life, I have seen multiple women become bestest friends because us (as guys) introduced them and led the way. With that in mind, rather than try and enlist respect directly from women, its much easier to earn respect of the group ( read men) - women will follow without question. When I go out and socialize with groups of people I don't know, I focus first on earning some sort of respect from the guys in the group. Once that happens, the women will look at you with puppy dog eyes since they see their male friends looking up to you in a way, which in turn means they will follow.

Its not to say be a kiss ass. Rather, be a good conversationalist, knowledgeable, and likable. Don't be the dude who ONLY focuses on the women of the group as this will earn you disrespect from everyone, which in turn means women won't find you attractive in that way. We all know who we are talking about .. the guys who come up to your friends and only focus on the women. You dislike them. They are dislikable. Conversely, think of random people who actually added something interesting to an otherwise regular evening. If I wasn't trying for the chick in our social group, I'd try and set them up...why not?

There needs to be less venom towards women, and more of what works. Not all women are as evil as depicted ( there are some real pieces of work out there for sure).

Gotta bump this. I realise there's some negativity towards women on these boards but this thread talks of women as though they're twisted, evil creatures out to destroy men, ha. Granted there are a large number like that but jesus christ not every woman is evil..

 

[XR 600]

I have been on SS for over 6 months and I have to say this is probably the most important thread so far that every guy on here need to adhere to. There's truth to every poster on this thread, and I will pitch in my experience after 40 years, most of them beta-fagg0t like and I am guilty as charged.

However I have learned the secret to dealing with women after all the trial and error, I will only give you the Golden Rules I abide by, the rest fluctuates depending on the woman you are with (some chronological order in this)


RULE #1 - Start with GOOD STOCK as Colossus said. It is much harder to re-design a HO and teach her how NOT to open her legs to everyone other than yourself. This takes many 'NO's to women in dating before you accept the right one (that's right, dont' settle for 'convenience' of women coming into your life and fall in love with them, be selective)


RULE #2 - Establish your frame early on. You can never do it again later. Women don't want to have their nails painted pink and then later forced to get them painted blue just because you decide on it. Establishing frame means NIPPING SH!T behavior in the bud. Some poster said, women are like children - mentally once you get to know a woman intimately, there is ALWAYS a youthful, girly side to them ALL. They just put on the mask of adult-likeness during the daytime and with strangers. They require conditioning, like Pavlov-The-Dog, but you need to figure it out with HBx-The-****t and make her behave.


RULE #3 - Establish a deep emotional connection. Another poster mentioned he has p0rn ridden women for hours and still he earned no respect. This is TRUE. Women need a deep emotional connection with a man to hold respect and loyalty. You have to provide some vulnerability and allow her to access some deep parts of you, but only by perception (perception IS reality). Make her think she's got SOME of you but never all of you (or else you are fooked). This is not an AFC move. This is critical if you want a LTR. But if you are into hump & dump, don't come on here crying about not getting respect. You are picking to ride a Pinto instead of a Cadillac and expect leather interior for your soft arse.


RULE #4: Generate the perception of value in her eyes. You MUST always create the perception that you are highly wanted and valued by all women. Women are fiercely competitive with each other. They all want the man that ALL women want. You need to (not by actual action or else that will generate huge insecurity, some women lack confidence and will dump you because they don't think they can keep your interest) talk and act that you ALWAYS have options and other women and she's not 'THE ONE' bullsh!t . And you should be never afraid to walk away from her (or threaten to) as a lot of posters have said.


RULE #5: Generate positive feelings with her. A woman's hamster spins rapidly and out of control most of the time. Women having to join the workforce just in the last 50-60 years is not something natural for them. Women by nature can not handle stress and work responsibility the way men are designed to take mentally and emotionally. You need to make sure you = FUN and HAPPY in her experience with you. Never let boredom settle in, or else your arse will be out the door soon enough. Always laugh together, enjoy fun things together; it doesn't require money always, just good companionship. Women wants a man who will SPEND time with her, period.


RULE #6: RESPECT CHEMISTRY. That is the 'unknown' which is irreplaceable. Sometimes you just have to understand, some woman you are with has just that natural 'hotness' for each other and you just can't get enough. While other women, you have to imagine another women in your mind while you are doing it to get it up and going. Sometimes, despite all the SS-uaveness you have in your blood, it just won't work. CHEMISTRY is that unpredictable attraction (or lack of) that will determines how much effort you need to put in, or to let it go. It is totally out of your hands.


RULE #7: RESPECT AND LOVE YOURSELF. Don't ever let anyone treat you worse than your own dog.



With respect,

Exodus

Very good post,thank you.