How to get laid without game

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So how much time would it take to get a 21-30 year old woman in bed via possession of coke for example vs learning a certain type of art and getting a social network that leads eventually to meeting women and getting laid?

Also, people have told me on this site and some others to get a hooker like its the easiest thing in the world, but there is a high risk of being stung. How could I know who to trust, who was leading me into a police trap and who is just going to run off with my money? Last time I went looking in a place where supposedly there are hookers and a guy was asking for money just to show me where they were. There was another guy hanging around and this kind of thing is sketchy on it's own but it could have been two cops.
I have been with escorts in 2014 and I did not experience any of the things you are talking about. First of all you have online reviews so if something is going wrong it would be ratted out online. Second of all, on a technical level, I never specifically verbalized anything about money or sex as everything was "implied" so if someone wanted to get me I could play stupid and say I do not know what is going on here.

In my case, the door opened and there were no men, just women in charge and women working and all I had to do was produce the money "duh". Any men encountered was accidental (i.e. another john walking into the brothel).

I would maintain that a catastrophic mental break-down happened a day after dealing with the escort because I believe my conscience turned against me and attacked me and it felt like I lost my soul. I'm not really into this casual sex of doing it with a hot girl you don't know.

I want to see a shrink before I ever see another escort so I can be monitored. I have been very happy to have got back to normal eventually and am not taking my sense of mental order/sanity for granted but am using every moment to learn new things and expand my mind.
 
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Most of the guys have said some pretty good stuff here so I'll just add this in, it all boils down to influence.

Your lay count will increase in tandem with the increase of ur sphere of influence.

Find out what you're naturally good that appeals to most people, work on it and use it to increase ur influence within ur immediate surroundings.

If singing is ur strong point, use it, go display ur skills in karaoke settings and work from there.

If it's making jokes, use it in social settings, get everyone laughing and comfortable with you.

If it's playing a musical instrument, use it, join a band.

If it's mechanical, learn to tune engines, be good at it and join some cool racing crews.

The thing is, everywhere has women around, as an example, even in Sosuave that's obviously for men, women will stubbornly stick their noses in just to be close to men.

All you need to do is be special, that means creating a niche within ur surroundings and girls will want to get to know you.
 

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Will this work when I am in my 30s? Because it will take until then to be effective
I mean yea. Friend up with normal, sociable people and just go out with them. If you have social issues, joining a group which demands social conformity such as the military, frat, etc will help you "get it" soon. Ppl are superficial so raise your superficiality. Be the leader of it though. Or just betabuxx.
 
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if you neglect your social life it will naturally atrophy. as @Amante Silvestre pointed out it's much easier to work on social acuity when you're not outcome focused. be process focused. mastering a hobby or instrument naturally pushes you to be process focused. it builds resilience and consistency(because any growth is built on constant failures), gives you opportunities to socialize/build connections(as long as the hobby is something that can be done as part of a group), and cultivates confidence(due to the newly developed expertise) in a positive feedback loop.

for something more immediate i would advise OLD and acting as the ideal lover. since you're only seeking casual sex you won't build deep or long term relationships with women. that means you can be anyone you want, so remain mysterious and playful. put up a simple profile that says you're only looking for fun and a couple stupid joke lines, this will help naturally filter out girls looking for something more serious. be bold and nefarious on your dates. be sexually aggressive and smooth, they know what they signed up for. the caliber of women you'll get won't be the best(they'll probably be crazy and have their own life in disarray, seeking a sexual outlet and willing to take risks), but they might give you some of the best sex you've ever had. i would say within 10 OLD dates you should get at least one lay, possibly a FWB. ignore your flaws because you will never show them. you'll simply stop talking to the girl if a flaw ever surfaces, you won't give her the chance to uncover these. this means be confident in the facade, you will never show the real you. with these girls you'll also have to indirectly objectify them to escalate and show the figurative balls they want so desperately to suck on. by this i mean use them for what you want in the bedroom. once you kiss her on your date start getting handsy and tongue, bite, and play with her. breathe in her ear, put her hand on your c0ck and be bold. grab everything while making out with her. rub your hand on her cliit over the pants then slip your hand in her pants, get under her shirt and pinch her nips. do all this in some tucked away corner of the venue you're at, there are no rules with these girls. when you get somewhere private USE her. if you're not hard tell her or push her to suck you off until you are. if she's not putting suction on it tell her to. slap her ass, finger her hard, grab her hair and pull her around, command her to your liking. tell her to do what will make you hard then fuuck her brains out. these kinds of women LOVE this stuff. and you'll be surprised by how many women are like this. they all are to different degrees tbh.

but be warned, the above is not a long term solution and has a price. it's a deceitful act meant to personify what a risk taking crazy girl perceives as an ideal man. you must never identify with the facade. always remember that it's not the real you and it's an act, a tool you're using to simply objectify women and bust a nut. it's also a hobby, but not a very healthy one. you'll get good at sex and escalation but not much else. you must NEVER allow yourself to feel validated by the results of this facade.

the problem is to play any part well you HAVE to identify with the character. so to be good at this and for it to be extremely enjoyable you will forget about your flaws and assume they don't exist. you will validate yourself by how much sex you're getting, how enjoyable it is, how much a girl submits to objectification and it will screw you up in the head. you will have the strongest orgasms and the most enjoyable times from a strictly hedonistic perspective but you will undoubtedly develop some kind of disorder. you won't notice any of this because it'll be a massive thrill and you'll be too busy chasing orgasms and ignoring your faults. you will also be encountering girls that are not mentally healthy and doing the same as you. they will also have disorders(though you may not notice until you get some experience) and will be destroying themselves in a similar fashion. they may try to convince you to bust inside them, they may steal things from you, they will surely lie constantly, and they will attempt to manipulate you in subtle ways. they will probably not realize they're doing any of this because they're too busy chasing the high, too far down the rabbit hole. many will be cluster b chicks.

you will either eventually snap out of it and realize this is a waste of your precious time as it demeans you, or you'll fall down the rabbit hole in a swirl of manic rationalization based on frivolous and trivial things. it could easily lead to drug dependency, depression, or otherwise a life you don't want.

if you do try to maintain a detachment from the 'ideal lover' identity you'll either find the activity boring and monotonous or deplorable and disgusting. so you will naturally polarize yourself to do it completely or not at all. that is the danger of this approach.

you're basically too naive and have no idea what you're getting into. you want hot passionate sex without putting in the proper work. you are asking for a means to self destruct. you will naturally learn by being burned, just like i and many other men were.
I want this, no matter how bad it supposedly ****s my life up. Hot sex with pretty young ladies.
 

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So how much time would it take to get a 21-30 year old woman in bed via possession of coke
However long it takes you to find a woman inflicted bad enough with a drug addiction that she is willing to sleep with you for her fix.

You seem to think the mere possession of cocaine is going to lead to sex with hot young women. I don't know why. Attractive party girls who hook up with thuggish drug dealers would still probably hook up with those guys without the drug deal necessary. And I'll give you two reasons why:

1) Party girls who are still attractive normally haven't hit the point yet where they have to resort to sexual favors to get their fix. They are still attractive, men still want them.... they still have the persuasion that comes with attraction... and there are plenty of fools out there willing to share their drugs in hopes of getting laid (hint hint....without ever really getting laid).


2) Those thuggish drug guys still have something else going for them. It might not be much... maybe they're just decent looking, dangerous, ghetto rich or whatever, but its something. If you don't have that something else already that works for you without the drugs, the only women who will actually sleep with you solely for the drugs are very unlikely to be those young hot types.

You're going to end up with sunken-cheek, sh*t looking addicts who will steal all of the money out of your wallet and leave you with herpes, all while YOU are risking prison time just to appease them enough for their attention.

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Also, people have told me on this site and some others to get a hooker like its the easiest thing in the world, but there is a high risk of being stung. How could I know who to trust, who was leading me into a police trap and who is just going to run off with my money?
As if dealing in drugs is any safer, less risky and is free of such potential problems....

And by the way, being caught for solicitating a prostitute is normally a misdemeanor that leads to a fine and maybe some probation time. Getting caught with enough cocaine to supply several people at a party can land you in prison for quite a few years.

You're making a lot of really bad choices, and none of them are going to lead you where you think it will.

So how much time would it take to get a 21-30 year old woman in bed via.... learning a certain type of art and getting a social network that leads eventually to meeting women and getting laid?
That's entirely up to you and depends on how passionate and dedicated you are to whatever you pursue. But I'm not going to lie. It could take 2+ years in a lot of cases. That doesn't mean you wont succeed at all along the way, though. As your skills develop, as your influence expands, as you begin to make a name for yourself, the effect it will have with women will do the same. You may not start off right off the bat with hot and young, but you can eventually progress to that point if you keep pursuing it. You dont have to sustain full monk-mode until you're a pro.
 

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“He gave me drugs at the party then raped me”
That’s the risk OP is taking if he tries to lure young party girls with drugs. Know how many girls regret hooking up with random strangers at parties? Lots, and some of them would stoop to utilizing their free #metoo card.

The other risk is if it’s a bad batch and she overdoses (eg Fentanyl is being mixed in everything now.). Are you going to leave her to die? If you get medical attention and they find out the drugs were yours, you could be charged with a felony possession.

So a felony possession or sex offender registry. How bad do you want to f**k hot young girls?

Like all around just forget about the drug bait if you like your freedom.

The hooker thing really is a safer option and you only need cash, not cash and cocaine. If all you want is sex with a hot young girl make it as easy as possible and go with hookers, seriously.
 

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Punch below your (relative) weight.

I'm not being rude or anything; that's just how it is in that circumstance.
 

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Punch below your (relative) weight.

I'm not being rude or anything; that's just how it is in that circumstance.
But why would I even want to **** someone if I know it would be a depressing experience?
I'm going to try hookers...
 
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Hmm not sure what all this business is about ""drugging women up"", but I grew up in the party scene and knew a few very attractive young girls who died through overdose. One on ecstasy which is quite rare and was in the papers.


Nobody worth a sh!t is drugging up anybody. Literally never even considered that before.

Oh, other than alcohol. LMAO. Do include that on dates.

As for the mention of coke, you need to be basically heavily into the lifestyle. It's not something that you just consider as a lifestyle choice lol. One of my best childhood friends is a dealer, and he is a complete mess. Not advisable.
 

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But why would I even want to **** someone if I know it would be a depressing experience?
I'm going to try hookers...
Hence why my notch count isn't in the hundreds. Loads of guys shag anything tbh.
 

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If the group rejects you, the girl rejects you.

And this thread is due to my inability to learn the "game" needed to get a girl in spite of being alone. Also, plenty of people have said to pay for it before, but I feel this is easier to get away with.
Until you can get one, you don’t deserve one. I don’t buy into all that garbage of how hard you tried.
Find a new group. Who would stay the low man in a drug culture group anyway?
That’s like being in the bottom of a hole within a hole.
 

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Will this work when I am in my 30s? Because it will take until then to be effective
This is true because you believe it’s true. No because it really is.
Fine by me.
Why are you here? Nobody feels sorry for you or has very much empathy for you.
 
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