How to get IN the FZ?

[Skyline]

I know this forum is pretty much revolved on the exact opposite of idea, but how DO you get in the friend zone if somebody is INTO you?

I've tried searching the forum for an answer, but couldn't find one. I've read 90% of the DJ Bible and I've realized its really not about what I'm trying to get at.

The reason why I'm asking is because recently an individual(That I met because I tried throwing a piece of trash into a trashcan but missed completely and hit her in the face... Best pick up ever right?) that I don't really find attractive is in to me(HB:4), however I don't like her because of simply the way she her outlooks on life are- plus she's a bit large. :nervous: On top of that I'm interested in someone else.
Normally, the DJ technique would be to just simply tell her straight up and if she doesn't do it you walk away, but i can already tell shes the type who holds grudges and all that seemingly unpleasant stuff. Surprisingly, she knows some HB's and THAT's what i'm interested in.

I'm currently an RAFC, and she tries messaging me on FB. I don't reply sometimes/a prolonged period of time and then I realized I'm just making her want more . I also happen to inadvertently encounter in the hallways from which she looks directly at me and slowly edges toward me so to be nice, I just greet her...

I don't know if I'm over analyzing this, or if it requires a more specific course of action so she gets the hint indirectly. Should I just revert to AFC tactics and message/text her all the time but never approach or spill my emotions/fake low self-esteem to her so I don't look so attractive in her eyes?(We did meet after I threw trash at her... If I would of kept my mouth shut I don't think she would of started talking to me) The only bad things to those options is she might tell her friends, and it might give me the infamous "Nice Guy" title.

To simply put it : How would I get someone who likes me to basically become an FZ without sounding like an ***hole?

Feedback is appreciated!

 

[LearningSlowly]

The reason she would resist friendship is because you're out to get something from her (her friends). If you really want to be friends, invite her around and give her no signals you're interested. If desperate, say she seems like a sister to you.

Friendship is easy if you avoid tactics (AFC, DJ bible, etc will not help you in this).

 

[AlexLefty]

Be direct, be genuine.

Example from fb:
My friend:
ive given this schpeel to so many *****es dude. works like a charm.

I hate saying this. I think you are absolutely adorable but beauty is easy to find, that being said I think you are pretty damn cool and most importantly different. Which is why I liked you. However, Im honestly not in a good position for anything serious, and I dont know if you are either. Ive been dating around and I tried the serious thing last spring with a girl and I honestly couldn't do it. I think you deserve someone who will treat you right and not...de-prioritize your happiness if that makes sense. I think the best decision for both of us is to stay friends, assuming you were considering more.
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Anyways u can't copy that exactly because it will sound weird since the words won't fit your personality. Just use that as an example of how to be direct & genuine.

 

[Skyline]

The reason she would resist friendship is because you're out to get something from her (her friends). If you really want to be friends, invite her around and give her no signals you're interested. If desperate, say she seems like a sister to you.

Friendship is easy if you avoid tactics (AFC, DJ bible, etc will not help you in this).

Well, I don't want her to know that, she still does not in fact. I see what you mean though by doing the exact opposite of the DJ Bible though lol

Be direct, be genuine.

Example from fb:
My friend:
ive given this schpeel to so many *****es dude. works like a charm.

I hate saying this. I think you are absolutely adorable but beauty is easy to find, that being said I think you are pretty damn cool and most importantly different. Which is why I liked you. However, Im honestly not in a good position for anything serious, and I dont know if you are either. Ive been dating around and I tried the serious thing last spring with a girl and I honestly couldn't do it. I think you deserve someone who will treat you right and not...de-prioritize your happiness if that makes sense. I think the best decision for both of us is to stay friends, assuming you were considering more.
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Anyways u can't copy that exactly because it will sound weird since the words won't fit your personality. Just use that as an example of how to be direct & genuine.

That's a pretty good line you have there... It's a great way to show you WERE interested at one point, but because of past experiences you don't want to engage into anything or fear of "failing". Therefore, giving her more power and the feeling of me being less valuable and literally not worth it.
This is the type of stuff I would tell people if I were still an AFC ahaha

Thanks for the replies!

 

[LearningSlowly]

Well, I don't want her to know that, she still does not in fact. I see what you mean though by doing the exact opposite of the DJ Bible though lol

No, you don't see what I mean. Be a confident man either way, just be a confident man that wants a friend, not a relationship. The Bible was written by confident men, but you need your own philosophies and confidence.

 

[Skyline]

No, you don't see what I mean. Be a confident man either way, just be a confident man that wants a friend, not a relationship. The Bible was written by confident men, but you need your own philosophies and confidence.

Well, like I said before I can't really do that or she'll end up hating me. Recently I've pretty much learned that she's an AFC. She got my number somehow and started texting me and for the most part she brings up a lot of negative stuff toward herself.

But for now, you're right. I'm just going to LJBF her and see where that guys, if she's like this the her friends will probably be too.

 

[DanZy]

If she end up hating you, so be it. Just tell her you're not attracted to her, it's simple.