"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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how to get her to pay?

mojo16

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last week i went ice skating with this girl, when we went to pay, the guy at the counter said "paying together?" which totally threw me, and i stupidly said yes.

before me and this girl had got onto the rink she realised that she didnt have any socks, and since wearing ice skates with no socks is pretty disgusting, we got a refund and bailed.

SO. the question is, if we go back to the rink, how could i either get her to pay for herself, or even for both of us?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Iceberg

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You know, I'm no rocket scientist or anything, but you could just say, "No we're paying separately."

As for her paying for both of you - why should she? Neither of you owes the other one a damn thing. Pay your own way, and she should pay hers.
 

terran2k

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next time, replace your "yes" with "no".
uh don't make up some excuse, don't take such a pvssy way out.
 

888

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it's not a matter of paying (unless you're actually broke). it's a matter of letting her know that even though you're willing to spend money on her from time to time, she'll have to reciprocate.

if you ask her out on a date, and she doesn't offer to pay, you pay, and then jokingly say to her "I'll let you pay for the next time we go out."



or have her pay for something else, say like "i'll wait in line here to rent our skates, you go over there to buy us some food."
This also works for movies ("you buy tickets, i'll get popcorn and drinks") or anything similar to that

But above all else, don't make a big fuss over who's paying, keep it light.

EDIT: if you pay seperately, it makes you look cheap. never split the bill (unless she suggests it), just have her pay for something else
 
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