ok so if your girlfriend is refusing to give heads and she tries to say shes never done it before and will never do it ( which i think is total BS btw) how can i get her to come round,.... i mean the sex is good shes always up for sex but i just want heads! what can i do?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Eat more pvssy.
teacha
Senior Don Juan
nothing, she simply not in love with you.scribblec said:
All girls give head to the man they love even if they don't like it.
C'mon Bible Belt. You can do better than that. Glib isn't cool.
It's several ways. But I will tell you this, the more you push and make it an issue, the more you "talk" about it...the more you won't get it. Like all things with a woman you lead her to it. It's been some years since I've talked a girl into giving head but it was never from the position of I ate you out, so you owe me. Nobody likes to feel obligated.
This is what I used to do. We are having foreplay, kissing and touching each other. I kiss her all over,play with her a bit and get her going. I may nibble on her fingers and suck on them during foreplay. At some point I'll rub my fingers across her lips and maybe tell her to suck on the tips of my fingers. Then at some point I'll lay on my back and let her kiss me. Then I'll tell her to kiss my chest and rub my cawk at the same time. Then I'll tell her to kiss my stomach. Then I'll tell her to kiss the tip. If she balks, I'll say...just kiss it like your kissing my cheek. If she does that, good, if she gets upset, I usually back off and go back to foreplay. Next I'll tell assure her that it only tastes like skin, just stick your tongue out and see, nothing is going to happen. If she does that, I'll tell her to lick it around the head, not asking her to put it in her mouth yet. I'll try to give her some positive reinforcement by telling her how great that feels. Then I'll tell her to lick it up and down, after she complies with that I'll tell her to put the tip in her mouth, of course always telling her how great she looks and how great it feels. And then I'll talk her into taking more until she's finally getting it right. Of course if she's never done it you have to remind her not to use her teeth and assure her you will let her know if your about to ***.
It's all about leading her to it slowly, making her comfortable at every step and letting her know she can trust you.
Some girls have issues and they just aren't going to do it, but some can be talked into it. It's up to you to be charming, strong, and lead her to it and make her feel good about it.
It's several ways. But I will tell you this, the more you push and make it an issue, the more you "talk" about it...the more you won't get it. Like all things with a woman you lead her to it. It's been some years since I've talked a girl into giving head but it was never from the position of I ate you out, so you owe me. Nobody likes to feel obligated.
This is what I used to do. We are having foreplay, kissing and touching each other. I kiss her all over,play with her a bit and get her going. I may nibble on her fingers and suck on them during foreplay. At some point I'll rub my fingers across her lips and maybe tell her to suck on the tips of my fingers. Then at some point I'll lay on my back and let her kiss me. Then I'll tell her to kiss my chest and rub my cawk at the same time. Then I'll tell her to kiss my stomach. Then I'll tell her to kiss the tip. If she balks, I'll say...just kiss it like your kissing my cheek. If she does that, good, if she gets upset, I usually back off and go back to foreplay. Next I'll tell assure her that it only tastes like skin, just stick your tongue out and see, nothing is going to happen. If she does that, I'll tell her to lick it around the head, not asking her to put it in her mouth yet. I'll try to give her some positive reinforcement by telling her how great that feels. Then I'll tell her to lick it up and down, after she complies with that I'll tell her to put the tip in her mouth, of course always telling her how great she looks and how great it feels. And then I'll talk her into taking more until she's finally getting it right. Of course if she's never done it you have to remind her not to use her teeth and assure her you will let her know if your about to ***.
It's all about leading her to it slowly, making her comfortable at every step and letting her know she can trust you.
Some girls have issues and they just aren't going to do it, but some can be talked into it. It's up to you to be charming, strong, and lead her to it and make her feel good about it.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Warrior74 said:
Sorry. I'm trying not to be too graphic. I am trying to say that if you make a girl have giant orgasms with your mouth and fingers, then it is nearly impossible to keep her from sucking your d!ck.
And that is where you are completely wrong. My coworker complains constantly that he goes down on his woman but she refuses to do the same. They have been together three years and she's preggo. He's in despair because he knows that unless he cheats he's never getting another blow job. Different girls do different things. There are no hard and fast rules, only what we can learn from experience.Bible_Belt said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
If a girl doesnt wanna put a **** in her mouth dont make her,it will only push her away,just cause she doesnt wanna have a **** in her mouth doesnt mean she doesnt like you,it just means she doesnt want a **** in her mouth....would you like to be forced to suck a **** if you didnt want to?
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Warrior74 said:
Then he's not very good at it.
You just refuse to believe that there are women out there who don't suck d1ck eh? Every single woman on earth will do it under the right circumstances? Very telling. What other blanket beliefs do you have about women?Bible_Belt said:
Furyguy
Senior Don Juan
I like Warrior's idea.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
You just refuse to believe that there are women out there who don't suck d1ck eh?
I refuse to believe there's one who won't suck mine. And yet after all these years, I have never once asked for it, or even had to tell a girl.
Every single woman on earth will do it under the right circumstances?
After you make her cvm enough...yes.
Very telling. What other blanket beliefs do you have about women?
I believe that if I make her happy, she will make me happy. It is very simple.
I refuse to believe there's one who won't suck mine. And yet after all these years, I have never once asked for it, or even had to tell a girl.
Every single woman on earth will do it under the right circumstances?
After you make her cvm enough...yes.
Very telling. What other blanket beliefs do you have about women?
I believe that if I make her happy, she will make me happy. It is very simple.
Furyguy
Senior Don Juan
Came across this today by chance and thought it was interestingly relevant. It's a psychological process developed by behaviorist B.F. Skinner. It is a way of 'training' an organism to behave a certain way through use of operant-conditioning and reinforcement.
Basically, an organism is successively rewarded for behavior that brings it closer and closer to achieving the desired end result.
Have a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaping_(psychology)
It was originally performed using birds reinforced by a piece of food. The ultimate goal was to teach the bird to peck a certain marking on the wall. The bird would first receive reinforcement just for looking towards the wall. Then for moving towards the wall. Then for standing near the wall and making head gestures towards the mark on the wall. Then, finally, only for pecking on the specific spot on the wall. After the bird had moved onto the next stage, though, it would not receive reinforcement for performing the actions of the previous stages.
In humans it can be used to fixed problematic behavior. And I guess not sucking **** is pretty problematic.
Anyways, I'm not sure if you were referencing this on purpose, but it's amazing how close your advice matches up to scientifically tested methods used by psychologists to control behavior. I bet there are limitless practical applications of this process to dating and relationships, or even helping new guys work their way into the pick-up process.
Basically, an organism is successively rewarded for behavior that brings it closer and closer to achieving the desired end result.
Have a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaping_(psychology)
It was originally performed using birds reinforced by a piece of food. The ultimate goal was to teach the bird to peck a certain marking on the wall. The bird would first receive reinforcement just for looking towards the wall. Then for moving towards the wall. Then for standing near the wall and making head gestures towards the mark on the wall. Then, finally, only for pecking on the specific spot on the wall. After the bird had moved onto the next stage, though, it would not receive reinforcement for performing the actions of the previous stages.
In humans it can be used to fixed problematic behavior. And I guess not sucking **** is pretty problematic.
Anyways, I'm not sure if you were referencing this on purpose, but it's amazing how close your advice matches up to scientifically tested methods used by psychologists to control behavior. I bet there are limitless practical applications of this process to dating and relationships, or even helping new guys work their way into the pick-up process.