"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to get good with Drinks & Girls

HeyPachuco!

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I want to get good with drinks testing and girls,

I have a few openers for a Bar/ Club setting and need to know whats the ''in thing'' and whats not.

Preferably I'm a double shot Vodka & Coke guy, but obviously this is not everyones preference. With this ( already opened in a set ) opener I have Me: " So what are you drinking?" Girl: "I'm drinking xxxxxx", Me: Err YUCK, Girl: What?, Me: "Hit the bar with me and I'll show you something awesome"

So now what? What could I give her, field-test, thats not too strong ( making her think I'm trying to spike or set her up ) and something not too loose ( making think I'm a softy ), but all in all, some generally good drinks?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You risk giving her the impression that you are going to buy her a drink which you shouldn't really be doing. IMO, this is not a good type of opener.
 

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Why don't you just say hi to her and talk to her like a normal person?
 

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I usually just like to talk about stuff in the environment to open up chicks, in almost any situation. An example of something I would do would be like if I'm sitting at the bar next to a girl, and there's a bottle of something I haven't heard of before I'll pat her and say "Excuse me have you heard of...? Is it any good?"

After that you've just got to use your conversation skills and joke around with her. Maybe tease her about the drink (if she's got a coke call her a light weight, if she's drinking something strong tell her you're trying to fit in as much convo as possible before she passes out). If someone stinks at karaoki then you can joke about that too. Keep it up until you're rdy to leave/go for number.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PlaysToWin said:
You risk giving her the impression that you are going to buy her a drink which you shouldn't really be doing. IMO, this is not a good type of opener.
No, this is NOT an "opener" dude, this is conversation flowing, I mean its general chit-chat - I want to get good with drinks anyhow.

So I was wondering if you guys knew any good tips on what good drinks are now.

I wouldn't buy her the drink, I would buy another round of what I had for myself and share it/ let her taste it ( Kino ).
 

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mrRuckus said:
Why don't you just say hi to her and talk to her like a normal person?
Yeah, strangely enough this works surprisingly well...
 

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The only time I ever care what a girl is drinking is when she's having a beer and it doesn't look like a mass produced crap beer because then I know for sure I can talk to her about her taste in drinks and it doesn't sound forced.

If you honestly don't care what a girl would be drinking, come up with something else because I'm sure she hears that the most during a night out.

If a girl asked me what I was drinking and it was clearly a beer I might wrinkle an eyebrow and respond with, "You want to buy me my next drink?" or "Grape Soda" or "You totally did that wrong, try the line again with more pouty lips and a wink"
 
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