"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to get an angle on a married woman that wants out?

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Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short without getting long-winded.

I'm a vendor, she's a vendor. We first met back in '05 when I worked in a different area. She now works in my area. We see each other 1-2 times a week.

Long story short, we've been talking and flirting every week for a few months now. All of a sudden 2 weeks ago she asked the question "how do you get rid of somebody?", refering to her husband. She sounded genuinely unhappy and said that her husband completely changed after they got married.

Anyway, she already has given me her phone number by way of me giving it to a guy who is looking for a car. Honestly, I think it was an excuse to give me her number.

Over the past few weeks, I can REALLY feel the chemistry growing. She's always smiling every time she sees me and we flirt like crazy.

My question is, how do I find the angle to escalate this thing? I know it's a touchy subject with married women but GOD is this girl fine. I just wanna bang her if nothing else.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Stay out of her business!!! Leave her alone!
 

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Chest_Rockwell said:
Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short without getting long-winded.

I'm a vendor, she's a vendor. We first met back in '05 when I worked in a different area. She now works in my area. We see each other 1-2 times a week.

Long story short, we've been talking and flirting every week for a few months now. All of a sudden 2 weeks ago she asked the question "how do you get rid of somebody?", refering to her husband. She sounded genuinely unhappy and said that her husband completely changed after they got married.

Anyway, she already has given me her phone number by way of me giving it to a guy who is looking for a car. Honestly, I think it was an excuse to give me her number.

Over the past few weeks, I can REALLY feel the chemistry growing. She's always smiling every time she sees me and we flirt like crazy.

My question is, how do I find the angle to escalate this thing? I know it's a touchy subject with married women but GOD is this girl fine. I just wanna bang her if nothing else.
Why does she need your advice to get rid of her husband. If she is not happy with her marriage why does she still with him? She has not told you anything that indicates she is not happy with her marriage ( at least none for me to make a judgment.) In situations like this, you should be careful giving her advice. Lest you know, she informed her husband or one of her friends about it saying this and that is what you suggested she should do. My advice to you is to LET HER MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS.
 

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She has discussed this with her friends before. She just wanted my take. Her husband rarely works. He doesn't take her out. Her son hates him. I just want to bang her.
 
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Better find out if her husband is one of those gun nuts.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chest_Rockwell said:
She has discussed this with her friends before. She just wanted my take. Her husband rarely works. He doesn't take her out. Her son hates him. I just want to bang her.
Don't discuss her husband with her. It can backfire. If you want to bang her, talk to about anything other than her husband, particularly anything related to getting rid of him.
 

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As someone who has done what you want to do, I can't in good concious tell you what to do.

All I can say is relax, have fun with her and treat her right. If she is interested it will happen.

There isn't really an angle, the fact that you are looking for one shows you are a bit insecure in yourself. Just stop that and relax and don't think about her as another notch or whatever.
 

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Does she want to get rid of him Double Indemnity style? Or get rid of him so she can drop her bullsh!t on you as the next ex-husband?

Drop your load in her and move the fvck on.
 
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She has discussed this with her friends before. She just wanted my take. Her husband rarely works. He doesn't take her out. Her son hates him. I just want to bang her.
It's none of your business!!! Don't be a fool and fall in the hor trap, as millions of chumps do!!!!! You are ONLY getting her perspective!!!
 

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Yeah, what ever you do, stop talking about her husband. Happily married or not, she doesn't like him and if you keep talking about it she might think you are into him. Divorce is ALWAYS a downer so stop talking about it with her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You could possibly save her marriage by tagging her. I like to see the positive in things. :D
 

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Ok guys, I heed the warnings. I can't help but wonder if she's just using me to make her husband jealous and snap him out of his stupor. Or she really could be unhappy and be telling the truth. She's been telling her close friends about him for awhile now.

It's the chance you take I guess. I just wanna figure out the best way to escalate so I can tag her. I'm on board about not talking about her husband. That makes sense.

More takes are welcome.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
It's none of your business!!! Don't be a fool and fall in the hor trap, as millions of chumps do!!!!! You are ONLY getting her perspective!!!
I can't believe I'm quoting him...but he's dead right. You don't know the whole story. Her husband might be a hard working AFC who doesn't "pop her cork" anymore. He might, as mentioned, be a nut case who collects guns! You don't know what's REALLY going on in her house. She may have made up the whole thing to get sympath from you...and it's working.

Sounds like TONS of drama just waiting to happen.
 

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I suggest you get a book by Major Mark entitled "Scoring Married Women." It should help you in this area.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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