"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How to Get a Solid Foundation in Game

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Learn how to talk to people and learn how to like it. That is the vast majority of game.

Start talking to your parents, family, friends, classmates, teachers and any human being you are in contact with.

Eventually you begin to see patterns and see how different people respond to different conversation topics or the tone of your voice. You hear stories learn how to tell your own, you learn social conventions on how to talk properly.

Start speaking to girls to, not only trying to fvck or date them but also just so you can have friends and know how to talk regularly with girls.

That’s all game is at the core. Being able to talk in, interact in and steer an interaction favorably and you can only do that through practice.

No matter how much you work out, do “no masturbation” (which I now think has benefits), read philosophy, or self-improve yourself it still always boils down to one limiting factor: how well you talk to people.

Coming from a former introvert, I found learning to be a social guy with people not just girls has helped my game than any other trick on planet.

No doubt a lot of advice tells you

“Use neg hits!” “Be ****y and funny” “The opener is amazing!” “This line will get you all the women’s numbers!” “Text her twice for every three texts she sends you!!!!!” and so on so forth.

And granted some of these may work. But memorizing these lines and trying to be good at game is like trying to learn a few lines of Italian and claiming to have mastered Italian. You need to build a solid foundation first, and once you have that everything else comes naturally. I don’t log onto Sosuave to ask what I should say to a girl, because from all of my experience, I can figure it out.

And you can too! Reading articles on Sosuave is no substitute for experience. So go out there and talk. Build connections (not just with girls), learn about people and in doing so learn a lot about yourself. You might find that you actually love talking to people.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'd agree with this. I think the key to getting a foot in the door, and eventually her in one's bed, is social skills. this to me is essentially what game is, using social skills to make an impression and build a connection.
 

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ilikecharlene said:
I'd agree with this. I think the key to getting a foot in the door, and eventually her in one's bed, is social skills. this to me is essentially what game is, using social skills to make an impression and build a connection.
This is exactly my thought process; when I first looked into PUA and game it seemed like it was basically teaching social skills. And I think it is funny that the majority of game ( and hence social interaction) is taught through websites rather than racking up experience and learning for yourself!

I think the problem is too many fall into the self improvement mode (which is good!) but then they expect their self-improvements to magically attract women without any social interaction on the man's part. No matter how much better you get you still have to say "Hi" at some point :D
 

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good tips. also, don't discriminate. just talk with everyone. she doesn't have to be a 8+HB or female in general. the more you talk with people in general, the more talking becomes second nature like putting on a seatbelt(well for most people) i know women have different sense of humor so some of the things you say to one may make them laugh and another will be like wtf you don't make any sense. haha you begin to see patterns and you will be able to keep a conversation going.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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great thread !

tell me, are you talking to anyone ??? the person sitting next to you on bus, this chick waiting on the red light, the guy waiting in the line at the supermarket etc. ???
 

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TheMale said:
great thread !

tell me, are you talking to anyone ??? the person sitting next to you on bus, this chick waiting on the red light, the guy waiting in the line at the supermarket etc. ???
Sure if you'd like. Though it's harder to start a conversation with a complete stranger than someone you know even a little.

JuanDon said:
good tips. also, don't discriminate. just talk with everyone. she doesn't have to be a 8+HB or female in general. the more you talk with people in general, the more talking becomes second nature like putting on a seatbelt(well for most people) i know women have different sense of humor so some of the things you say to one may make them laugh and another will be like wtf you don't make any sense. haha you begin to see patterns and you will be able to keep a conversation going.
I agree with this. Then you become mroe comfortable with speaking and experiment and say other things and it's really a fun thing I regret being a super introvert for a long time.
 

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ArcBound said:
Sure if you'd like. Though it's harder to start a conversation with a complete stranger than someone you know even a little.
I'm really saddened that you can't just go out by yourself, chill and meet people without the social stigma that's attached to it these days. There's zero pro-stranger culture here... my sis and her friends refer to people they don't know as "randoms" which I find really closed-minded and worrying for some reason. I swear half my generation ends up back in grad school because they'd have no social life without their friends being selected for them by their program.

I like talking with strangers, dead sober in any situation, but perhaps I'm an endangered species? It's a strange era to be extraverted when everyone's plugged into their smartphone 24/7.

Being distrustful/anxious of strangers, and only sticking closely to your friends seems really immature to me for some reason. I'm not sure exactly why yet. Just another pain in the a** obstacle to overcome I guess
 
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