"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to get a girlfriend?

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I know how to attract girls short term. Believe me I know what I'm doing.

But I have a problem I'm seen as a "one night thing," now.

I hook up with girls and then we don't hangout again. This has happened a couple times now in the last two months.

I don't want random hook ups, I want a girlfriend.

I've tried to get the girl to hangout again but she didn't really want to. I guess this happens because I meet them for the first time and we don't have a real connection??

Is that it?

How can I prevent this from happening?? How do you get a girl for a long term thing??


By the way if you think hooking up with girls and not talking to them is fun...then well you've never really done it before.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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sup playa, i was about to make this same thread and then i oppened urs so this is our thread.
 

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Alright dude im gonna start by telling you of an experement i did last night, i had a girl over who slept over. A virgin but i could have taken it none the less, ive taken several girls v cards. she kept trying so hard to get with me almost desperatly, and i would not even makeout with her. i gave her a kiss through the blanket and shes like "omg finaly" and i said thats all ur getting tonight. and she started to tear up a little feeling very insulted. i tell her that it was a huge complement and that ive never done that with a girl before. and shes like too bad im soo horny now. and lemme tell u bro i could feel how wet she was through her jeans lol. well im probably gonna find out in school tommorrow wether or not shes crazy about me now or thinks im a huge pus sy? i also really want a gf bc im tierd of meaningless hookups and i actually want someone to care about me. any help is appreciated by me and void. also let me know if i handled that **** well.
 

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Originally posted by Proteinshake
Alright dude im gonna start by telling you of an experement i did last night, i had a girl over who slept over. A virgin but i could have taken it none the less, ive taken several girls v cards. she kept trying so hard to get with me almost desperatly, and i would not even makeout with her. i gave her a kiss through the blanket and shes like "omg finaly" and i said thats all ur getting tonight. and she started to tear up a little feeling very insulted. i tell her that it was a huge complement and that ive never done that with a girl before. and shes like too bad im soo horny now. and lemme tell u bro i could feel how wet she was through her jeans lol. well im probably gonna find out in school tommorrow wether or not shes crazy about me now or thinks im a huge pus sy? i also really want a gf bc im tierd of meaningless hookups and i actually want someone to care about me. any help is appreciated by me and void. also let me know if i handled that **** well.
I'll start by saying that, yes, you handled that well. It demonstrated all the things that girls dig(control, power, value, prize, whatever). Although, if I was in that situation, I would have boned her. I'm not the type to care about my reputation or what some highschool losers think of me, so a night of sex is better than a "kiss" and a night alone.

If you have basic game down, and can get a ONS whenever, then the job's all but done for getting a girlfriend. There's just afew things you have to do differently...

First off, when you guys are getting intimate and sexual in a ONS situation, keep yourself under control. Show her abit of respect and care, don't just be a caveman acting on pure impulse. Show her that you are more than just a sexual robot, that you are actually boyfriend material.
Girls have two different standards for guys...There's the guy that she dreams about, the sex animal, and then there's the guy she would have as a boyfriend; the one who might not be quite as sexual, but has feelings and cares for the relationship. Always, the girl will choose to "settle" for the guy who is more trustworthy and comfortable, not necessarily the dangerous and unpredictable sex animal(don't get me wrong, being unpredictable, dangerous, and "bad" are all good traits to have, but if that's all the girl sees, then you're as good as dust on the wind)

So, essentially you have to be abit more restrained and comfortable to be around. Show her a glimpse of the "nice guy" underneath your bad-ass exterior. Fyi, girls go crazy over a guy who they think is actually a really sweet guy beneath the surface...It creates a feeling inside her that SHE is the only one who can see you for who you really are, and that nobody else can see this "gentle" quality you have deep down. Do this right, and you might just end up having a stalker.

good luck buddy, i had/have the same problems you have.
 

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yeah thanks quicksilver, i definatly appreciate ur advice u seem like u know what ur talking about. anyone else have any advice or comments?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I agree with pretty much everythin quik said. Nice job.
 

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proteinshake said:
Alright dude im gonna start by telling you of an experement i did last night, i had a girl over who slept over. A virgin but i could have taken it none the less, ive taken several girls v cards. she kept trying so hard to get with me almost desperatly, and i would not even makeout with her. i gave her a kiss through the blanket and shes like "omg finaly" and i said thats all ur getting tonight. and she started to tear up a little feeling very insulted. i tell her that it was a huge complement and that ive never done that with a girl before. and shes like too bad im soo horny now. and lemme tell u bro i could feel how wet she was through her jeans lol. well im probably gonna find out in school tommorrow wether or not shes crazy about me now or thinks im a huge pus sy? i also really want a gf bc im tierd of meaningless hookups and i actually want someone to care about me. any help is appreciated by me and void. also let me know if i handled that **** well.
good good. thank you for posting that :). tell me how that goes tommorow. because im hitting up a party next weekend and i think thats my game plan.
 

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alright i think that it went pretty good. I really had to struggle to make her make first contact but i did. finally twords the end of the day she texted me bc she had to get something from me. when she came to my class to get it from me she was very flirty and made eye contact and touched me alot. I know she has game but i just gotta be strong and play harder. ill keep you pimps updated. also remember to be nice to ppl around you, especially girls you are not interested in getting with. I know its good to show higher value but ugly girls have been telling me lately that no one is good enough for me and it got me thinking that i should be more considerate of others... just something to think about
 

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proteinshake said:
alright i think that it went pretty good. I really had to struggle to make her make first contact but i did. finally twords the end of the day she texted me bc she had to get something from me. when she came to my class to get it from me she was very flirty and made eye contact and touched me alot. I know she has game but i just gotta be strong and play harder. ill keep you pimps updated. also remember to be nice to ppl around you, especially girls you are not interested in getting with. I know its good to show higher value but ugly girls have been telling me lately that no one is good enough for me and it got me thinking that i should be more considerate of others... just something to think about
i dont know these girls but do they happen to be friends with the girl that your trying to go farther than "just hooking up with?" If they are then it's understandable why theyre saying that. Thats a good point what u said (even if theyre not friends with the girl) to be nice to not so good looking girls because a lot of times they have good looking friends. And maybe one day you want to bang her friend and then that ugly girl says "no hes an *******." Im really interested in if this girl wants u more now. It's like girls these days only want easy ass haha. Soo please figure out if she wants u more ;)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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My problem is that girls want relationships, when I don't.
My mistake/your saviour is that when I go for them, I push and pull a lot. Especially when I get picked up, I don't act like a man *****, so that when we stop, we can easily take off from where we left. Try it, with girls you're interested. Even though I only do this with girls I might be interested in the 'long' run.

Undermine what you say, what you do. Be exciting and show her that you're beyond a ONS. Establish a strong sense of rapport. I do this and when I turn out not to be interested, I blow it off as her being my "sister".

By undermining, I mean, do the usual game. Neg hits, leeches, banter lines, whatever. When it comes to getting intimate, don't seem to desperate and sometimes pull out of kisses in a teasing manner and say "i hope this isn't one of your bad kiss moments" or "you're my little sister, i can't kiss you" and then UNDERMINE that by doing in for the kiss.

**** with her head, that will get you on her mind a lot and eventually ask her out. For me, many of my gf's never gave it up on the first night and for a strange reason, thats why I respected them to be my gfs.


Laterz, Kiko.
 
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