"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So the gym I work out at has a trainer (who usually just sits at the front desk) who is pretty cute. Mostly older, gross guys go to this gym, so I'm probably the best looking guy there just about all the time.

She doesn't come out from behind her desk much (in front of her desk is a glass like window, so it's hard to just start a conversation there), but she is running errands around the gym from time to time where I do walk past her.

Any recommendations for how to game her?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Trainers are hard....

two questions

1. are you funny (chrasimastic)?
2. in great shape?
 

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I am a pretty funny guy. Shape-wise, I am in ok shape. I am about 6 foot and 180, so def not a body builder, but am in better shape than average. I go to the gym 4-5x/week.
 

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Start a chat with her and play up the whole training thing. Depends on how aggressive you want to be though.

One idea:

Pretend you want some training but ask questions about body parts full of sexual innuendo. You can tease her and tell her you know a couple of things too but would cause too much of a scene if you were to show her at the gym outside of the gym.

You'll see if she's into you or not.

Have fun with it. She's a trainer so chances are she'll be into looks and having her looks appreciated (not ogled or obsessed over, don't overly flatter, just playful banter).
 

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I bumped into her a few times the last couple of weeks. Just left with it with mostly a friendly hello etc....

Today I was shooting baskets by myself and she went to another hoop and started shooting too. I've never seen her shoot baskets before. It took me ALOT of guts, but I finally went over and asked her if she was up for a game of horse. She immediately responded with "I'm terrible, but yea sure."

We shot for a while, was mostly very joking/getting to know each other. She was very giggly the entire time and I playfully made fun of her quite a bit. We played a few games (We called each other Ho's and *****s ie HoRS) quite a bit. I found out she was a cheerleader in HS, so I'd ask for cheers/tell her to do cheers before she shot (which she'd giggle alot about)

We had to stop because they began to set up volleyball on the court, but she immediately ended it with "we need a rematch sometime." I introduced myself. And said that we'd play again sometime.

I'm sure I'll see her again sometime, and I plan to playfully make fun of her/bust her on some things and will be sure to try to play hoops or get to know her again.

I also figured that I'd not ask her out since this was my first time really getting to know anything about her. What would be the best approach for getting to know her outside the gym?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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^^ respect. nicely done. now stay relaxed and confident, let her see you as a prize.

This will take a lot of effort so you better be sure about investing time in her:

Everytime you enter the gym and notice her, have a big ass smile and be a little C&F. Keep raising sexual tension slowly. Concentrate on your work out more than on herself. Do some fun stuff with her inside the gym like you did before, and once you realize there is enough comfort & attraction, take her number and ask her out.
 

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daygameguy said:
^^ respect. nicely done. now stay relaxed and confident, let her see you as a prize.

This will take a lot of effort so you better be sure about investing time in her:

Everytime you enter the gym and notice her, have a big ass smile and be a little C&F. Keep raising sexual tension slowly. Concentrate on your work out more than on herself. Do some fun stuff with her inside the gym like you did before, and once you realize there is enough comfort & attraction, take her number and ask her out.
I'm working on letting her see me as the prize. I am friendly with alot of people at the gym and always stop and have mini conversions with everyone. On my way out from a morning basketball game, I popped my head over her reception desk and asked if she was sore. She laughed and said no. I came back with, I'd be sore if I got my butt whipped in horse like you did which she laughed at again and I said to have a good day and took off.

I figure Ill keep taking my time and keep up the fun interactions like this and slowly escalate things.

PS, I think she is already in a bit of awe because I am working on my PhD at a pretty well known exotic school which seems to impress her, and the place I work at is a very well known company where everyone knows we make pretty good bucks.
 

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Espi said:
You did a great job in asking her to join you for a game of horse...just don't wait too long. I'd give it another week, max; after all, what's going to change her interest level? I would invite her out for a smoothie--tell her that it's getting old seeing her in the gym all time and that you have 45 minutes for a post-workout smoothie.
Thanks for the response. I am going to be friendly + ask her to a game of horse or whatever the next time I run into her (after I playfully tease her)

The next time we do whatever, Ill play more of the getting to know you questions. If she is up to my standards Ill ask what she likes to eat/where she likes to go. If she says she likes pizza, ill let her know that Im going to grab a slice (or whatever food she says) once I get out of the gym if she wants to come. If she is interested, she will take me up on my offer. If she isn't then it's her loss.

Very proud of myself already for how I've played this. I've come a long way in the last few months.
 

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brian123 said:
Thanks for the response. I am going to be friendly + ask her to a game of horse or whatever the next time I run into her (after I playfully tease her)

The next time we do whatever, Ill play more of the getting to know you questions. If she is up to my standards Ill ask what she likes to eat/where she likes to go. If she says she likes pizza, ill let her know that Im going to grab a slice (or whatever food she says) once I get out of the gym if she wants to come. If she is interested, she will take me up on my offer. If she isn't then it's her loss.

Very proud of myself already for how I've played this. I've come a long way in the last few months.
Good. Go ahead with that.
 

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daygameguy said:
let her see you as a prize.

This will take a lot of effort so you better be sure about investing time in her:
That somewhat contradicts itself, don't just fake it, BE IT. Be the prize and believe in it. It shouldn't take "time and effort" it should be fun.

I get a nagging sense of faint pedestalizing if you're worried about investing time and effort, it should be fun and light.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lust said:
That somewhat contradicts itself, don't just fake it, BE IT. Be the prize and believe in it. It shouldn't take "time and effort" it should be fun.

I get a nagging sense of faint pedestalizing if you're worried about investing time and effort, it should be fun and light.
Yea, you are right. You shouldn't fake it, but BE IT. But if you just want him to act as a prize inside his mind, like just being cool and indifferent, she might not NOTICE that part of him. Which is why no matter how cool he is, he WILL have to invest time to convey that personality one-on-one wit her.

So my point is, this approach WILL take much of his time (maybe even cause him to cut short his workouts), so unless he truly wants to hook up with this girl, it is not worth it.
 

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Wanna hear my advice about gaming at the gym? Focus on the gym.

If you see a hot girl, talk to her briefly. Just a little small talk. Then go back to your exercise routine. Don't spend a half hour talking to her about your life. Just a quick exchange. Be the first to walk away every time.

You will appear focused, in control, and not fazed by her. This will make her want to prove herself like you wouldn't believe. And that's exactly the emotions you want to evoke in a woman.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
Wanna hear my advice about gaming at the gym? Focus on the gym.

If you see a hot girl, talk to her briefly. Just a little small talk. Then go back to your exercise routine. Don't spend a half hour talking to her about your life. Just a quick exchange. Be the first to walk away every time.

You will appear focused, in control, and not fazed by her. This will make her want to prove herself like you wouldn't believe. And that's exactly the emotions you want to evoke in a woman.
I think he is doing similar stuff, but instead of smalltalk he is keeping it playful and C&F.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
Wanna hear my advice about gaming at the gym? Focus on the gym.

If you see a hot girl, talk to her briefly. Just a little small talk. Then go back to your exercise routine. Don't spend a half hour talking to her about your life. Just a quick exchange. Be the first to walk away every time.

You will appear focused, in control, and not fazed by her. This will make her want to prove herself like you wouldn't believe. And that's exactly the emotions you want to evoke in a woman.

I've done small talk with her a few times already (and I always make sure to end the conversation, sometimes I can tell she'd like to keep talking, but I end it anyways) When I am working out, I focus on my workout. If I bump into her, then I am friendly and keep the conversation < 1 minute.

If I am done with my W/O and have time, then I speak with her (or like last night, I was just shooting baskets at the end of my workout and she happened to be there, so I figured I'd approach her.)
 

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There used to be a BaNGIN!! south african trainer at my gym. but she was a private trainer, ie she didnt work at the gym, she only came in when she had clients..so it was rare that i actually saw her.

i saw her talking to a friend of mine and in passing said hi to my mate and they both said hi back to me..i walked away.

i think her client hadnt turned up or smtn...so she was standing around waiting.
anyway i was benching and thought perfect op. because she wasnt standing very far from me and everytime id take a rest id catch her giving me eye contact..
so i turned and asked her if she could give me a spot.
she was happy to oblige..
and before i pushed the weight by myself (noway she couldve spotted the weight i was pushing..) before the first rep i said you're accent sounds very south african..she said wow! i am from SA...i took stabb in the dark and said Cape Town? ..she was like O my gosh!! yes!!
then i pushed weight..after i was done..we talked on my rest break and at the end of it i got her number..
BUT!!!!
i tried..and nothing came of it.. her ex bf had fvked her over recently and she showed interest for like 2 days then i met at coffee and she said he'd messed her and she wants him back still..and so cant really have anything with another guy..but she said if she would id be the first person she'd call..lol.i laughed it off..
oh well..win some you lose some.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Thanks for the tips all. I have 3-4 girls which I am "gaming" right now, but this girl has my most interest.

She sent out an email to all gym members with some workout tips. I was thinking of responding to it with something casual/funny. I've busted on her for being a cheerleader in HS, going to a college where the girls weren't very reputable, and we've played bball. Any suggestions if/anything funny I should respond back with? Keep in mind, this is sent out on a work email DL, so I have to keep it fairly PC.
 

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Espi said:
The email response sounds good...if I were you, I would respond with something brief, sincere, and funny; I would write this:

Hey_______...good tips! Glad you didn't offer tips about how to win a game of horse, though. ;) If you need help writing tips for that, I'm your man...but, of course, my services aren't free: you'd have to take me out for a smoothie. ;)

~Brian~


Forget PC...stand out and be a little playful...

I sent her

Too bad doing lame cheers while playing horse isn’t on your workout list. Otherwise you’d have your exercises done for the week :)

She responded back with

Lol true… If I remember right, I think it was your idea for the cheers before each shot.




Your thoughts were better..good work!
 

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I just read this thread more thoroughly.

HORSE is a great way to mingle and flirt with a girl. Whenever I meet a girl who plays basketball (hell, even ones who don't), or see a girl shooting around at the gym, I ask them if they want to play HORSE.

It's basically an "anything you can do I can do better" type of challenge in a nutshell. It's fun and not overly competitive, though you still try to win or at least put up a fight.

The game itself give you plenty of time to flirt, talk, joke around, do kino, and show off your skills (if you've got a good jumpshot).

You're on the right path for sure bro. Nothing is a done deal, but this looks good.

So, for the record, HORSE = a great, fun idea.
 

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Espi said:
Dude...you've got her locked into you...personally speaking, I would reply with something like this:

"LOL...whatever...look, I've gotta get back to work, but we should continue this conversation sometime. What's the best way to contac you outside of the gym?"

Get her number...

Keep us posted.,..you've got her.

Thanks for the encouraging words. Ill see her in a few hours when I go to the gym. I'll talk to her then. Ill break the ice with "Stick to exercise emails, and stay away from horse."



I think what means more to me is that I am not gaming this particular girl, but it shows how far I've come in the last few months. When I read my original threads started here, I realize I've come from being a total AFC, to doing alot more right. I have alot more I want to work on, and improve myself on, but I am def on my way there. And things like this are a good indication of that.
 

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Espi said:
Congrats...you've done a great job...my only contention is that you shouldn't have to wait much longer for a phone number, one-on-one meeting, etc. If I were you, I'd do it soon. You're gaming mutiple women, so you've got nothing to lose.

But, you have played things exceptionally well with this particular target, so keep doing what you're doing, but keep us posted.

Thanks for all the words of encouragement. My only "fear" with this one is if it doesn't go very well, i will have to see her 5x/week at the gym. But really if nothing comes from it, it's really her fault.

I'll focus on getting her # within the next week.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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