"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to game/ask out hired guns?

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Does anyone have any tips and strategies for asking out hired guns?

Should I go for a direct opener or should I use indirect game?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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MidnightCity said:
i basically DHV as much as possible and flip dynamic.

conditions are also a big factor. like slow days or late nights etc

youre gonna hear a lot of people say "you dont become a girls friend you want to bang" etc but within this context (and a few others) i tend to build rapport by being a familiar comforting face. for bar tenders for example i'll show up with a date or flirt with other girls on her busy nights. and then switch it up on slow nights. ill show up and treat it like a date. ill play the role of a bartender and hear her out. you know, treat her like a living human being. banter, humor, kino good convo etc etc. you should be able to judge her interest through her interaction with you and will know when the right time comes to ask her to hang out one night after her shift.
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Should you try to get the # the first time you meet them or should you try to come back several times until you feel like its the right time to ask them out? Also since the hired guns most likely gets hit on very often by other guys, what do you do that separates you from everyone else?
 
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