"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to fall off the face of the earth without hurting her?

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From my experience, it's best to stay clear of taken women just so you don't fall into a type of friend-zone.

There's this woman from my old college days who moved to my city. I'm the only person she knows here. We met up, saw each other for the first time in years.

She's in a 3.5 year relationship (long-distance). She's an awesome girl, personality and looks-wise.

However, I don't know if I should stick around or not. If I stick around, I'm the only person she knows; I'm probably too valuable to her for anything other than friendship.

But---that's the problem. I'm the only person she knows. It would be pretty ****ty of me to leave a woman alone in a city scared and alone.

I thought about just not responding to her texts to hang out; but is there value in sticking this out and seeing what happens? The usual reasons to have a hot friend, like meeting her friends, doesn't apply here since she obviously has no other friends in this city.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Stick around. She'll have girl friends soon and you can bang them.
 
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teddy said:
From my experience, it's best to stay clear of taken women just so you don't fall into a type of friend-zone.

There's this woman from my old college days who moved to my city. I'm the only person she knows here. We met up, saw each other for the first time in years.

She's in a 3.5 year relationship (long-distance). She's an awesome girl, personality and looks-wise.

However, I don't know if I should stick around or not. If I stick around, I'm the only person she knows; I'm probably too valuable to her for anything other than friendship.

But---that's the problem. I'm the only person she knows. It would be pretty ****ty of me to leave a woman alone in a city scared and alone.

I thought about just not responding to her texts to hang out; but is there value in sticking this out and seeing what happens? The usual reasons to have a hot friend, like meeting her friends, doesn't apply here since she obviously has no other friends in this city.
Thou shall not covet another man's wife.
 

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DarkDetective50 said:
Thou shall not covet another man's wife.
Well, what should I do then? The other poster suggested I stay on until she gets girlfriends
 
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teddy said:
Well, what should I do then? The other poster suggested I stay on until she gets girlfriends
Eh, that's on the chance that she gets some and like you said, she's miles from home. I would advice not to hang out with her. Don't text her. Don't call her. Nothing. Just don't exist to her. If she contacts you, make your conversations brief and end them yourself. She's in a relationship and it's not good to go after another man's girlfriend or wife.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DarkDetective50 said:
Eh, that's on the chance that she gets some and like you said, she's miles from home. I would advice not to hang out with her. Don't text her. Don't call her. Nothing. Just don't exist to her. If she contacts you, make your conversations brief and end them yourself. She's in a relationship and it's not good to go after another man's girlfriend or wife.
So if she texts to hang out, just keep making excuses until she eventually stops?
 

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teddy said:
So if she texts to hang out, just keep making excuses until she eventually stops?
Yeah, I'd do that too. Just tell her you're busy with other things. No need to be specific.
 

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A man should operate from his internal locus of control and never worry about his decisions affecting the reactions or perceptions of women.

You're the King of your kingdom. Be ruthless.

I personally avoid dealing with "taken" women out of respect for my brethren. Paradoxically, I'm constantly on the radar of married women and that does bother me a bit, so I do my best to steer clear.
 

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Your happiness is always more important than the woman's.

If you are afraid of "hurting" women then you will get exploited and run over by them your entire life.

Who is more important?--> YOU. So live on your terms.

By making the woman's happiness more important than your own you are basically saying she is more valuable than you. She will take this to mean you are a beta faggot and exploit you accordingly.. then she will discard you when you have no more fruit to bare. Then you will feel like an idiot. :crazy:
 

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Well I think it would be good social proof to have a female friend.

Your call, like what the other guy said said "do what you want & what is good for you" =)
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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PlayHer Man said:
Your happiness is always more important than the woman's.

If you are afraid of "hurting" women then you will get exploited and run over by them your entire life.

Who is more important?--> YOU. So live on your terms.

By making the woman's happiness more important than your own you are basically saying she is more valuable than you. She will take this to mean you are a beta faggot and exploit you accordingly.. then she will discard you when you have no more fruit to bare. Then you will feel like an idiot. :crazy:

Is it ok to use her as social proof (like the guy above me mentioned). I think I might use her as that, but I still feel ****ty for "using" her (though I guess that's what all women do)
 

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teddy said:
From my experience, it's best to stay clear of taken women just so you don't fall into a type of friend-zone.

There's this woman from my old college days who moved to my city. I'm the only person she knows here. We met up, saw each other for the first time in years.

She's in a 3.5 year relationship (long-distance). She's an awesome girl, personality and looks-wise.

However, I don't know if I should stick around or not. If I stick around, I'm the only person she knows; I'm probably too valuable to her for anything other than friendship.

But---that's the problem. I'm the only person she knows. It would be pretty ****ty of me to leave a woman alone in a city scared and alone.

I thought about just not responding to her texts to hang out; but is there value in sticking this out and seeing what happens? The usual reasons to have a hot friend, like meeting her friends, doesn't apply here since she obviously has no other friends in this city.

You sound like a spine-less jelly-fish or a crab with no shell :crazy:

anyway...be straight up. be a man. :crackup:
 

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alpha_as_h311 said:
You sound like a spine-less jelly-fish or a crab with no shell :crazy:

anyway...be straight up. be a man. :crackup:

Well, I mean do feel ****ty leaving her alone. You mean be straight up with dropping her?
 

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Chill..do it all. Don't be her girlfriend with a penis, so sporadically hang with her till her social circle gets big (and it will in no time), then she'll have a few girfriends to introduce you to. You then have her do you a favor and put in a good word for you before you pounce one of them.

But until then, there is nothing wrong with YOU friend zoning HER. If, by chance, you're both drunk and she wants to blow you one crazy night, then the call is yours. Otherwise, just make it a once every two week hang out kind of a deal.
 
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