How to do well in busy loud environments with lots of hot girls and a lot of competition as a guy who does alright in quieter smaller environments?

[Hippocrates]

I'm not a newbie, I can do alright sometimes and have had some great experiences in the past. Making out with two girls at the same time, having sex with a girl in the bathroom a few minutes after meeting her, etc. Just made out with a pretty attractive girl the other night. I feel decently confident in chill, low-key environments. But I'd like to figure out how I can do well in busy, loud environments full of 20 something girls running around and where there is also more male competition in the form of hot guys, tall guys, confident guys, etc. In an environment which is full of attractive guys who are willing to approach girls, the advantage that I sometimes have in other environments of being one of the only guys who are willing to approach and have a seductive vibe isn't there as much because there are more guys who are also approaching, plus it is loud, plus the girls seem to be in a sort of ADD mode. I feel that I am decent at seducing with my vibe and body language in a one-on-one situation where there is not much to distract the girl, but how do I even get there to begin with in busy loud environments? Some may ask why I would even want to. The reason is simply that there are more hot girls in those environments than in the quiet ones. Even though I feel fairly good in the quiet mellow bars, the number of girls who go to those is just pretty limited compared to what I can find in busy crowded places so I would like to if possible figure out how I can get better in those busy crowded environments. So I am looking to figure out how to step up my game in these kinds of places.

 

[SW15]

You have a total of 2 posts. One is in September 2023 and the other was in June 2005. You are likely at least around 40 years old, if not older.

Why would a 40+ guy want to do into a loud nightclub to seduce? Even with the higher quantity of attractive, 20 somethings, it's a difficult proposition.

You seem to have found a solid niche as a seducer in quieter lounges, which is good for a 40+ guy.

You might also be good at non-bar approaching (typically known as daygame) too.

Unless you're going to a hot girl gym, nightlife venues do have the most quantity of attractive women. However, quantity doesn't mean everything and you have to play to your strengths as a seducer in the moment, not who you were in 2005 or 2010.