How To Do Direct Game

[rushing dude 123]

I have learnt a big lesson i thought i would share with u guys in a seperate thread, seeing through bits and bits of help and experience i found out how to do it and i noticed it is often questioned on the site. Direct game, the game which quite a lot of people have doubts about even myself had doubts about it. Theres two kinds of ways of doing direct game the wrong "creepy" way and the right "DJ" way.

Creepy:
"hey u look pretty cute whats ur number"
" ...hey whats up....."
(other side of street shouting) "hey beautiful" (moron....)

DJ:

"Hey, i couldn't help it just wanted to meet u"
"hey there i saw u i cudn't go on my day without meeting u...my name is..."
"hey there i wasn't going to come over but i decided to anyway"
"hey i need a stimulating convastion with u, so WOOOOOOOOOOW its great weather we r having huh (in playful overreacting tone)

Now don't get me wrong direct game isn't about one line, i learnt that the hard way. Direct game takes a lot of work, but to b honest its much much better than indirect game in my opinion. Because think about it when u approach a girl if u like it or not TRUST ME they know what u want. The worst turn off that effected my game and a lot of other guys is not being straight forward don't try to trick her into liking u or getting her number. That is a inferior males method. Do u think a dominant male wud b playing games not stating why hes there, rather than talking about some painting thats on the wall. Now i had to work hard and i was probablly much worster than everyone on this site put together at direct game, but i stuck to it and it paid off, heres my first field reports on it which i copied from my journal.

Direct Game Theory

Direct game one of my hugest weaknesses, but I made sure i would find some way how to do it.

Out of my first 20 approaches I only got two numbers and guess what they were the first two i ever did. I got 18 failures, whilst my friends would get most of the success from direct game, i just didn't get it

So far i have tried:

"you look pretty cute whats ur number" (worked twice failed 12 times)

"hey there i saw u and just wanted to meet u, my names jordan and whats urs" (failed twice, maybe has potential though)

"hey sorry to bother u, i know ur probablly busy and i kind of got to go now, but i think u have an interesting (or intriguing) look about u, (then i either ask for number or ask name)....(but the 6 times i tried this it failed)"

I got replys such has :

"R U ****ING MAD"
"UMMMM NOOO"
*EVIL STARE AND WALK AWAY*

thanks ladies really helped the ego lmao

I then tried my friends approaches who were successful with there direct openers.

Junior:
His approaches would b more in ur face "hey whats ur name" he blows out a fair share, but also gets a very fair share of success. I gave this a try and it just went terrible, i thought his approaches were kind of out of the blue, but for some reason they worked for him.

Kriss:
He is more of a charmer and he gets tremendous success on his direct approaches. These approaches would b like "my eyes were calling u" or "u know u r the most beautiful girl i have seen today". I gave these a go and omdz the girls jus stared me down so uninterested. Idk i couldn't really compliment a girl its just not my style to jus tell a girl how beautiful and when ever i said it they could sense i didn't really mean it.

The Analysis of My failed approaches

After this the guys on here told me new openers and in a sense the openers failed, but i realised from these ones and the ones from my friends that it wasn't all about one line its about the game u have afterwards and instead of jus blowing out i was able to keep in the sets for quite a while. I also noticed one thing about my direct game the longer i was talking to them the more interested they became.

I felt although the way i approached them directly wasn't my style. I then thought that this could b exactlly like when my friend showed me routines. Because when ever i got shown a routine i would always cutomize bits i liked and bits i didn't. I also realised direct and indirect r exactlly the same, the only difference is the start. So i had an idea to open up directly and then turn it into a indirect approach (like focusing on something else u observed like maybe her handbag).

so ill open with "hey just wanted to talk to u, then comment on something else straight after" I did this and after 40 failures in a row i finally got a successful approach, did it again i got another.

I also did this one "hey just wanted to talk to u, but don't expect me to sweep u off ur feet, i stutttter and my hands shaking look lol *pretends to shake hand and stops*, but anyways ...." and then i commented on her age (she looked younger than i thought) and accent, talked bit more and got her number.

The one last mentioned worked pretty well i think, because i was watching my friend do a few magic tricks and what i realised is what impressed people was when my friend would say ok this might not work, last time i did the cards went everywhere. Its kind of making them not expect much, so when u r doing something good it is very impressive. So i put it into my approach and this one went well, but cud just b a coincidence.

Also stuff like "hey just wanted to talked to u *if she gives me bad response through facial body language* hmmmm, ok i am not going to lie from the look of ur face i am pretty sure this aint going to go well, but then again u never know u cud b nice " worked.

I called this the bad set theory, because they had low expecatations i impressed them. Usually when asked questions to b different or funny u b extreme. Like:

Bad set theory

HB: where do u work
RD: i work in mcdonalds
HB: haha very funny ...
RD: i think i might b able to get u happy meal if u get on my good side

Good set theory

HB: where do u work
RD: i model Calvin Kline underwear
(does pose)
HB: lol

Now if u noticed i did good set theory has well, if ur extreme its funny and its great way to break ice, if it works for answering questions or **** tests why wudn't it work for a approach.

So i field tested:

"hey i don't really know what to do girls usually approach me, so if u cud kinda help me and go easy on me this will b great"

and it worked fantastically and i number close. I stated my interest, i demonstrated higher value c&f so it don't come cross arrogant and i also to top it off basically told her to tell me how to hit on her, so in her mind shes telling me how to pick her up, so how can she say no.

These things worked for me, but for direct approaches in my opinion i think everybody has there own style, like what works well for junior might not work for me, what works for kriss might not work for me. U got to customize ur style to suit u and not anyone else, so if people tell u how to go round with ur approach it might not work for u even though it did work for them. Its more of how u feel about the approach ur doing and the girls can c that and thats what makes them feel attracted. I believe u also got to experiment with new ways of approaching, because u never know if it is ur style unless u try it.

So give my good set theory and bad set theory a try it might work for u, these r just tools for ur DJ arsenal, but ill teach u the core thing that will help u with direct approaching.

 

[rushing dude 123]

Key to direct approaching

Now if ur a postive DJ u certanly have a positive mind set and that u r not strangers with the girl u approach and u just r two people getting to know eachother. Now u cud b a negative DJ and believe u r strangers and this is going to b awkward. Now with the last dj and the woman with two pesimistic views, u can already see the second DJ has lost, because dosn't matter whos world ur in ur both strangers and think its creepy so u can't win.

Now the other DJ has a 50/50 chance, so this Dj needs to bring her into his world. So basically i am sure sometimes when u say ur first line u will sometimes get a bad response. With experience u will notice the second thing u say is far more important that the first. Let me show u a example.

Guy: hey how r u
HB: kool

now this is dead, u cud do two things from this point

a. afc and keep talking try and impress her to get her talking, and then u will lose her

b. call her on her **** if shes not giving u a good vibe, make her look like shes doing something wrong.

AFC: ummm... so whats up
DJ: wow u have never done this before have u, this is where u say omdz u r such a awesome guy i must know how u r has well

Now the second dj assumed she has done something wrong, so she feel she has to qualify herself to u in a way, instead of what happens with the afc where he is trying his hardest to keep the convo going to please her, thus qualifying to her. Also u can do the ghost (not going to get into that now) which is basically not taking notice of bad signs. But if u have mind set of trying to impress her when she is bad is wrong.

I do a few sets in my "100 approach FR", where i use this theory and turned the negative vibes positive, like the one below.

HB sitting on seats in waterloo station.

RD: hi how r u
HB: Fine
RD: hm this pick up line isn't working ur suppose to just full out make out with me
HB *utter look of astonishment*
RD: this is where u say my name is (points at her)
HB: Blah
RD: and then u say u really kool whats ur name
HB: whats ur name
RD: hmmm u forgot the ur really kool part.
HB: ur really kool whats ur name
RD: c lol thats more like it and ur smiling.... kinda.. wow
(transisted it to something interesting and then changed subject again)
HB: yeh i live with my gf
RD: G f or "gf"
HB: "Gf"
RD: o ur a lesbian wow i am totally interested *directs body languages at her*
HB: lol u guys just love the thought of two girls making out don't u
(sexual convo)
Number close

In this approach she wasn't giving me a great vibe, so i turned the tables on her making it not seem like i was screwing up the approach, but rather than her not knowing what to do. This way i show that i still want to talk to her, by telling her what shes got to do next, come off unique and also don't accept no bad vibe from her. She dosn't really have no choice but to accept my good vibe because she feel has done something wrong and the right thing to do is to talk to me.

This isn't just with approaching, if she acts like a ***** to u, tell her exactlly what ur thinking instead of changing ur methods. Remember if ur being a good guy its not u that has to change its her, because she has to meet ur standards. If u b nice while she acts *****y, this is just making u seem like a push over and making her think she can get away with it so she will continue to do it.

So basically if u go to her world u r trying to meet her standards, but if she comes ur world she has to meet ur standards. If ur being good guy, why change urself. That is not the way to go, the whole point of this is to find the right girl for u, not become a guy ur not to "try" to fit into the right guy for her, which apparently is a push over with no back bone. This is exactlly why us Djs have to take control, we r not changing ourselves for women, we r changing for ourselves to become the man we want to b and no woman should ever change that.

If u apply that to ur direct game and once u master it u will get solid closes everytime. Because in indirect game some closes will flake on u quite a bit, seeing u were not man enough to just staight out state ur interest, but to instead try to curve round and trick them into going out with u. I close very often with direct game and my flake ratio is very low, because the girl knows why i asked her out and she accepted it when she gave me her number.

When a guys gets a girl say she has a bf when attempt to closed, a guy who says we can b friends and number closes her will hardly get anyway rather than a guy who says, "sure ill take both of u out" or "when u get bored of him give me a call" due to this factor, So out of these two guys which one do u think who gets the number will more likely end up getting with this chick?

Direct game will take a lot of work guys, but to b honest it is such a great payoff, i have had girls tell me that how i approached them has only happened a few times in there lifes and they were seriously impressed by it. U got indirect, creep-direct, Dj-direct. Once u combine both direct game and indirect you will have a ying and yang effect and ur game will b 10 times better than before.

To be honest guys to become better u have to have variety, i feel game is best when all things r put together, vice versia people who do direct only i am sure can improve there game if they add the indirect method into it, so that u get best of both worlds and r just not limited to one style, but rather create ur own style. Sometimes indirect game is necessairy to start off a convosation so there is nothing wrong with that and this is where the direct people will struggle. Its best to analyse the situation and see what would b the best method to handle it.

Guys best of luck and remember judge with experience and not fear, that is the moto that got me to learn direct game, instead of complaining it dosn't work and not try anything i tested things and if they went bad i changed them. Instead of abandoning the idea all together.

ADIOS.

 

[rushing dude 123]

Yeh i don't disagree with that, its not what u say its how u say it, but u gotta have the right mind set for it. If its genuine to you thats fine, but thats the whole point of direct game u r being genuine and thats why it works very well.

With the creep ones i am putting the creeps personaility in it 2, if u have the personaility of a dj when u use these lines u will get results, but more than often the mindset when these r used r creepy.

1. "Whats up" (i don't have anything to say so ill ask a meaninless question, next ill ask her name)

2. Calls from other side of street "hey beautiful" (i havn't got the balls to say these to her face so ill say it from over here or ill try and impress my friends)

3. hey you look pretty cute whats your number (i don't have the balls to talk to her so ill close staight away)

Also think about it if all these creepy people have done this to her, what is she going to assume u r.........u can prove her wrong, but just from those opener u have started on the wrong foot, rather than something that could start u on the right foot.

I am not saying u can't plow through it, but why plow with useless openers when u can just start off great?

 

[Aragon034]

The first opener i ever used (on a cold approach anyways) was the

"hey there i wasn't going to come over but i decided to anyway"

It was horrible she just kind of looked at me and went. "Okay..."

I always liked Direct Game (even though i didn't know what it was) because it was so straight forward and simple compared to some of the other stuff i'd found.

In recent months, i've tried it more often, and with more confidence and some other factors (where we were, how i was dressed, etc...) the success % has gone up.

Good post man

 

[daygameguy]

I think the key to ANY opener is to be ready with "what to say next".

If you pause after your direct opener, she will feel uncomfortable because it will look like you NEED her response, or her approval of your direct opener. She cannot decide so soon if she likes you or not, unless you look like Brad Pitt.

So the key is to keep talking no matter what you say to open them... and as long your main conversation is cool fun and interesting, it won't matter if you called her beautiful or pretty or interesting to begin the conversation.


I don't do direct openers at all btw, but this would be my intuition on doing direct openers... I am seriously looking to go direct and get some good sets under my belt... direct game can really pump your confidence up.

 

[Derek Flint]

I've written several posts about Direct game and the biggest mistake most guys make is thinking that "Direct" is an opener or a technique.

It's not.

Also, I see all these guys thinking they are opening direct but they say things like "I saw you and decided I would come over here and say..." instead of just approaching and opening, these guys are rationalizing why they are approaching her which isn't direct and negates the power of direct.

If you like, you can read my post history about "Direct" method and not the watered down version that is going around on YouTube and PU forums.

 

[horaholic]

It's all about being in 'state' when you approach. For those of you who dont know what that means, picture a stage performer. If he goes up to the mic, and talks softly, like he's nervous, and isnt pumped up or totally confident in his performance, he's gonna blow it. Now, if a guy using the SAME material storms up to the stage, clapping his hands, jumping up and down, grabs the mic and yells "HOW THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? MAKE SOME NOISE!!!" Then does his material. How do you think the crowd will respond then? He will KILL it. Why? He is in the STATE, aka, 'nimbus.' Its like being in the 'zone'

Whenever the RSD guys go sarging, they will enter the club and grab each other, and yell as loud as they can, and spin around, and do all sorts of other crazy shyt, to get themselves in state. It makes you in the MOOD to OWN the whole place, and not give a flying fvck. If you're in state, you dont give a fvck if you get rejected. You are KING of your own world, sand you will have no fear, thus generating massive attraction instantly anyways. State, is superconfidence, unreactivity, and pure energy.

Nest time any of you are in a club or bar or wherever, go in the bathroom, yell, scream and act like you just scored the winning touchdown of the superbowl for a few minutes, not caring what anyone else in there thinks. When you go back out, you will have such an amazing energy, and attitude, you will kill it! :rockon:

 

[rushing dude 123]

hm one of my old threads that came back to life, well thanks for the feedback guys and u guys have made very good points. I do understand the whole "in state" thing from u RSD guys, actually i went to an RSD seminar and spoke to tim personally about direct game and experimented with some things he told me after the seminar, which actually contributed to this post.

In this post i was merely giving some examples of things to try, see what u feel most right with and then take the bits u like and don't like. I am not going to tell u either, not to learn techniques or whatever because we all did and its the point of the technique u got to come to grips with and u can pull it out has something very similar u just made out in a total different sentence. Its basically understanding the concept of the routine, which is most important. Thats why i feel there is absouletly nothing wrong with guys field testing other peoples ideas with a bit of ur own flavour in it. They will in the end actually find there own style, by applying what they learnt from other peoples and what they liked in the set.

I am not saying become a pua who is just a guy hidden under all techniques. But rather b open minded and choose to understand and become the man where all the great things just ooze off u naturally because u understand how things work and what feels right to U. And no this is not fake it till u make it, a dj is a part of understanding and doing things UR WAY, but still being able to understand peoples advice/information and applying it to ur own method.

 

[pua1989]

im all about direct game. lately ive just been going up to girls and saying,

"hey, whats your name?"

in a tone of voice that makes it obvious that im attracted to you, im 100% confident, and want to get to know you better (i will admit slammin a few beers does make it better haha. i will also admit my main approach ground is the party scene, where i have had tremendous success lately).

heres an example of how i made out with this girl that _hates_ me at this 18+ club i was at a few nights ago (im 1 year away from 21).

"megan.......what up"
"wow pua1989....i thought we werent going to talk anymore"
"well, i figured id come over and we could kiss and make out...err i mean make up."
"well i dont know about making up..."
"what about making out?"
*start making out*

couldnt fclose though...but ill definitely be hittin her up this weekend