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How to decipher a Korean girl??

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Hi everybody,



I am new to the forum, I heard that there are some knowledgeable people here, so maybe you can help me out with my issue.

I am a German guy living in Japan and I have been hanging out with this Korean girl from my university lately. Now, since its my first time getting in touch with Korean culture I really do have some problems to understand her behaviour. In other words, this is a request directed at those "experts" among you, who have dated some Korean women and may better understand how to interpret the signs I have been gettin so far.

Anyway, here is the story: We have been going out for dinner for about 4-5 times in the last 2 months or so. While never calling it a date, it was always just the two of us and things usually went pretty smooth- However, from my perspective there are signs that she just wants to be friends as well as thise indicating that she may want something more, so maybe you guys can help me out in deciphering, if there is any sure giveaway for any of the positions:



possible signs:

she messages me now and then, asking how I feel and if I wanna hang out (positive)



she tells me rather private thigs about her life (positive/negative?)



she mentioned at two occasions that she is looking for a boyfriend (positive/negative?)



she offered to cook for me (bake a cake) (positive) allthough she never really followed up on it so far



she talked about former boyfriends (negative)



she takes sometimes quite long to reply to my messages (negative)


she has some unusual interests (supernatural stuff) and asked me whether she should tell her future husband about such an "emberassing" thing (negative) but at the same time she asked me if I mind that my future wife is not into horror-movies (she doesnt like them but knows that I do)


she has not sought for any body-contact so far, like slightly touching me on the shoulder, something which often happens with Japanese girls at least when they like me (negative)



she allowed me to pay for her (positive)



So, I obvously know that the easiest way would be just to ask her what she feels, but the problem here is, that I don't want to ruin a possible friendship by doing that, which would be the case for sure.
That is why I would like to hear the opinion of those of you, who have encountered this kind of behaviour from Koreans or something close to that. Maybe I interpreted some of the stuff wrong and maybe one or more are sure giveaways. Please let me know your thoughts!

P.S. This request is really only directed at people, who did or do live in Asia, since dating rules are fairly different around here and also behaviour can be interpreted fairly differently. ;-)



Thanks in advance!
 
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You need to escalate and find out.

I've been married to a Japanese and dated a Korean and I usually find they fit into categories of woman waiting for man to lead, or feisty woman looking to push around a man. She sounds kinda passive which despite initiating hang outs, sounds like she might be waiting for you to make something of this.

I find that uninterested / Platonic-minded Asian girls prefer group hangouts to one on one, so escalate gradually and report back. Even go for a hand hold and see what gives. They can be shy and have strong ASD but if uninterested, would not initiate.
 

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I lived in Korea one year and was married to a Korean and have lived in Taiwan for about 4 years...many Asian gfs and fwbs.

You are being passive as hell with this girl man...don't ask her anything of the sort...just freakin make a move... Asian girls expect the man to ALWAYS lead...there's a very good chance she actually likes you or is using you for free dinners...

She's Korean dude..meaning she probably drinks ..

Soju, Korean, rice wine is your best friend right now if she does...

Invite her to a local Korean BBQ place order up one bottle of soju and some beer for the both of you...soju is meant to take ****s with and will make u drunk..

Get drunk with her and start doing kino when walking after or while drinking... Ask her back to your place to see a movie... Be very persistent...

Once at your place be very aggressive kiss don't except no for an answer...

Just be aggressive dude...and so many dinner dates without alcohol... Are you her gf or the guy that's going to bang her?????

Drink with her and make a move already.... Asking will makebu look incrediblly weak...

If she doesnt drink just take meet her casually for evening tea or coffee go for walk make move kiss her there and invite to your place...

I personally love Korean women..many are actually very fiery and fun to hang out with....

Stop being so passive.......Korean women will use you and treat you like their little ***** if you act passive around them....more so than western women even...
 

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Haha, thanks for your replies guys! I guess I have to clear up a few things though:
@zinc4: I am perfectly aware that I am being passive right now, the problem here is that she is not some waitress I picked up somewhere and now try desperately to hump, you know? I would just pick up some random Japanese girl if I was aiming for that.
She is studying at the same place as I am and chances are high I'll have to see her pretty often for the next year or so. I don't want there to be any awkwardness between us if I turn out wrong on this. That's why I am being overly careful here.
Regarding the free dinner: I guess we can dismiss that, since she is definitely not poor and I only payed the last two times anyway.
A friend of mine went out with a Korean girl for 5 times or so and when he made his move, she was just all suprised thinking they were just hanging out as friends. He told me then that they like to play their games sometimes and especially if you are a foreigner, it could be the case that they are just curious to hang out with you without expecting anything else.
Also, we were usually drinking when we went out, as you guessed right she likes alcohol and can drink quite a lot, I would have to order like 5 drinks or so to get the effect you are talking about, which would be way too obvious. She also never asked me for anything so far, so I don't think my attitude did trigger any of the behaviour you mentioned.

Anyway, you seem like a knowledgable guy on this kind of topic, so do you see any of the signs I mentioned as revealing?
 

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Jin2 said:
Haha, thanks for your replies guys! I guess I have to clear up a few things though:
@zinc4:I am perfectly aware that I am being passive right now,
Well if you're "perfectly aware" that you're being passive,then STOP IT.

Your passiveness is what's contributing to the problem here. Most chicks look to the guy to LEAD,and whether you realize it or not,your LACK of leadership is what's got you in this mess.


the problem here is that she is not some waitress I picked up somewhere and now try desperately to hump, you know? I would just pick up some random Japanese girl if I was aiming for that.

Well she may not be some random chick you're desperately trying to hump,but YOU DO WANT to "hump her" at SOME POINT in time....right? You're hoping she'll be sexually interested in you as you are in her.....right?

Then you need to LEAD HER in that direction. Even if you DON'T WANT a one night stand,you STILL have to escalate and make your sexual interest known.


She is studying at the same place as I am and chances are high I'll have to see her pretty often for the next year or so. I don't want there to be any awkwardness between us if I turn out wrong on this.
Well hey......sorry dude,that's the chance you have to take.

Have you ever gotten in a car,drove for 10...15 minutes,then after a while,you realized you were headed in the wrong direction? Then you have to turn around and go the other way.


THAT'S WHAT YOU DID HERE..... You STARTED OUT wrong. First thing you said was....


We have been going out for dinner for about 4-5 times in the last 2 months or so. While never calling it a date...

You done been out like 4 or 5 times,but you never clearly defined what the "get togethers" were. Add that to the fact that you were passive,and what's she supposed to think? Since there's no leadership on your part,how's she supposed to know where things lie?


That's why I am being overly careful here.
Yep. And you being "overly careful" is WHAT'S SCREWING YOU UP.

A friend of mine went out with a Korean girl for 5 times or so and when he made his move, she was just all suprised thinking they were just hanging out as friends.
Yep.....and you're doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING as him,which means you'll likely end up with the SAME result.

Your friend made a move on the girl AFTER the 5th or 6th date,which took the girl by surprise. That's why I said you screwed up from the beginning...you started out wrong. Only instead of driving 15 minutes then realizing you were headed the wrong way,you drove for 2 AND A HALF MONTHS. You've gotten her used to the two of you "hanging out" with nothing sexual happening.


So when you do finally make a move,don't be shocked or surprised if she seems blind-sided,like your interest suddenly hit her out of the blue.......it was your passiveness that lead you there.


He told me then that they like to play their games sometimes and especially if you are a foreigner, it could be the case that they are just curious to hang out with you without expecting anything else.

Dude....that's pure BULLSPIT.

He goes out with a girl 5 times,never makes a move,then when he finally does on the 6th or so "hang out",he's upset cause she said she thought they were just friends? Then on top of that,he has the nerve to blame korean woman in general,saying their playing games?

You have to ESCALATE. You can't go....

Date 1:nothing...talking
Date 2:nothing...talking
Date 3:nothing...talking
Date 4:nothing...talking
Date 5:nothing...talking

Then all of the sudden,out of the blue,you go for a makeout or boob grab 6 dates in. The previous 5 dates lead her to think things were platonic. And since you never did anything other than just talk,why would she think otherwise?



The reason you can't "decipher" this girl is because YOU'VE BEEN WISHY-WASHY and unclear about what YOU WANT.
 

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Igetitit nailed it...

OP...your friend is making bs excuses of why he landed in the friendzone and guess what...you are on the path if not already in the friendzone too.

I live in Taiwan and have many plates here that I meet up with and bang frequently and they always tell me stories of friendzoning guys like you are never take charge and make a move from the beginning.

Just stop with the excuses already...you have placed this girl on a major pedestal and your being cautious and playing it safe is going to friendzone you.

You said more than 5 drinks would be too obvious you are trying to get her drunk????

WTF is this line of thinking all about????

You are a man....of course you want to get her drunk and bang her...be proud of that fact...

Guess what??? Koreans love to get drunk and have sex...Korean girls and Asian women in general are all horny as hell dude....if you act like a man with sexual desires that is...

She's just another girl man...stop pedalizing her...if she likes to drink a lot... She would LOVE to get drunk with the right guy and have crazy passionate sex all night....trust me....

And stop worrying about things being awkward in the future...damn you sound weak man...just go for it...
 

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she is not some waitress I picked up somewhere and now try desperately to hump, you know?
Unless she is your sister, who cares what she does. She's a korean girl, means she has a high likelihood of being a feminist idiot. Your game needs to be strong and aggressive. So simple... the quieter a girl is, the more she enjoys being lead. Friends are bullsh1t. Unless she can play STARCRAFT like a pro, there is absolute no reason to continue 'hanging out'.

"You are my girlfriend or I'm out, I don't keep female friends, sorry".
 
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