"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How to deal with women with all sorts of Degrees

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Maybe I should just deal with one woman at a time for now. I'm not sure I'm ready to spin plates.

As for Iqqi's comments, my date wasn't saying anything, just sitting there like a statue eating her bagel. She sucked with no personality at all and she is probably blaming me for it. I don't have time to study profiles because I have 10 other girls from match wanting to go out with me, why should she be so special I should bring a crimp sheet with her profile details listed on it?

There has to be a reason she has been on match for over a year and is still single. When I got home last night, I thought it was a good date. But after sleeping on it, I realized something was wrong.

Is something wrong with me, or her is the question? I don't think there is anything wrong with me. She is a fool to pass up the opportunity to date me I have alot to offer.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So what have you learned (and it should have little to do with plates in my opinion)?
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Maybe I should just deal with one woman at a time for now. I'm not sure I'm ready to spin plates.

As for Iqqi's comments, my date wasn't saying anything, just sitting there like a statue eating her bagel. She sucked with no personality at all and she is probably blaming me for it. I don't have time to study profiles because I have 10 other girls from match wanting to go out with me, why should she be so special I should bring a crimp sheet with her profile details listed on it?
While it is good to "spin plates", it is never good to make your date feel like she is just the 2nd chick in your long line. No one with any self esteem is going to enjoy that.
 
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iqqi said:
While it is good to "spin plates", it is never good to make your date feel like she is just the 2nd chick in your long line. No one with any self esteem is going to enjoy that.

I don't see how I could have made her think that OTHER than not having her profile memorized.

Do you think that's where it went bad? I was asking her stuff she answered in her profile and she said "it's in my profile"..

For crying out loud some people have lives outside of match.com but apparently a lot of women do not.
 

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Deary me, dumb guys get most women anyway and now you're teaching them how to get the clever ones as well. Wow, there's just no hope for clever guys anymore ehh.

MM
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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My Name is Nobody said:
I don't see how I could have made her think that OTHER than not having her profile memorized.

Do you think that's where it went bad? I was asking her stuff she answered in her profile and she said "it's in my profile"..

For crying out loud some people have lives OUTSIDE of match.com but apparently a lot of women do not.
You gave the impression here just now that you didn't have time to look at her profile, cuz you are the sh!t and you have tons of other chicks lined up too.

That is not charming!

Before you went on the date, you should have reviewed her profile, and picked a few interesting tidbits to help you move the conversation along.

But if she was just being a b!tch altogether, there is little you could do.

However, not knowing anything about her + inviting her to interview you = a chump too full of himself.

That could be where you ended up with an ice queen sitting across from you.
 
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Hey you know what? She was boring. The way I was making her laugh non stop, makes me think I was being at least funny. Maybe she doesn't like funny she is so used to boring.

Accountant = boring obviously.

I need to date bubbly women with good personalities. When I do that, we click and hook up. She needs a boring guy to go with her boring personality.

When she chose a coffee date over going for a beer, I should have known.. BORING!
 

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This is a classic case of Low Interest Level.

Stop overanalyzing and move on.

When a girl feels attraction for you, you can do EVERYTHING wrong and she will still be into you.

When a girl feels no attraction for you, you can do EVERYTHING right and she will not be into you.

Then comes the girl who is 50-50%. This at best can lead to low-moderate interest level. You only want High Interest Levels. Read below.


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=136777
 
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iqqi said:
I'd agree with that!

I'm not saying it was all on her I could have done better but she was being so quiet I was desperate for things to talk about.

Even if I studied her profile, and she was that quiet, I might still ask questions that she answered in her profile just to make conversation. And then like a typical weirdo, she turns it back on me.

It sucks when your date won't initiate any conversation.

Like I said there has to be a reason she has been on the site.. over a WHOLE YEAR?

How many people stay on match for over a YEAR?

3 months MAX for me how about you Iqqi?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Qualify!

Qualify!!

Qualify!!!
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
3 months MAX for me how about you Iqqi?
I've never used that site, or any dating site.

Not really trying to collect dates, I have enough "plates" from actual living outside of the net interactions. ;) I actually tend to choose to stay home lately over going out with men these days, so collecting even MORE would just be a headache.

I don't know if I'd ever try that, it just seems too mechanical. I like vibes.

I do have a friend who met her husband that way though.
 
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Whatever Iqqi there has to be a reason you're still single. I bet you're crazy.
 

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Lol. I haven't been single for THAT long.

Also, I don't "branch swing" or whatever you call that.

I don't think I am ready to be in a relationship just yet. I can tell that I am still working on some issues from my past LTR, in the way that I avoid true intimacy with people.
 

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Remember, it doesn't matter what she thinks. You are comfortable in your own skin, she likes it or she doesn't. Her loss if she doesn't.
Is it? I won't get involve (in fact don't even date) with a woman that does NOT have a degree (or at worst is in college working on her degree).

Not saying he should be ashame or like a loser. All I'm saying is that everybody has preferences and you cannot blame a person for having some level of preferences on the person they date.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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My Name is Nobody said:
I understand that it's a good point, but when the subject of school comes up I'm trying to figure out what to say and how a DJ would handle that situation.

She sounds smart and rich BTW. She has a graduate degree and a CPA and owns a nice house. What the hell is a CPA?

I can pull off making her think I make alot of money. I have my own place and a decent car and a decent job and I bought a new wardrobe with some nice clothes. So I'll just go with it but I would still love to hear how a DJ would react when the subject of shooling comes up. I have a couple years of college (community) done and I want to go back I'm lazy.

I don't think honesty is the best approach here.
VERY AFC. So, you have to LIE?

You can either avoid the topic...or tell the truth...or simply refuse to talk about it.

But MISREPRESENTING who YOU are? Dude...you are 27. If you are ASHAME of who you are...then I STRONGLY suggest you start working toward becoming the MAN that won't put shame on you. You still young.
 
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iqqi said:
Lol. I haven't been single for THAT long.

Also, I don't "branch swing" or whatever you call that.

I don't think I am ready to be in a relationship just yet. I can tell that I am still working on some issues from my past LTR, in the way that I avoid true intimacy with people.

Whatever Iqqi you just haven't met me that's why you are single.. plus you don't return PM's.
 

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Whatever Iqqi you just haven't met me that's why you are single.. plus you don't return PM's.
Ignore her...she is a nut job.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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