"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to deal with women with all sorts of Degrees

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What do you do when you have a date with a smart woman with all sorts of College degrees? And what if you have NO degree?

School is bound to come up and what am I supposed to say I partied and never got into a good college?

I consider myself pretty smart, but school just isn't my thing. And I am fairly successful in life but have no degrees to show for it.

So how do you handle this situation in a smooth way without sounding like a loser?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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There is smart and poor and smart and rich.

A degree does not necessarily represent that a person is smart.

Remember, it doesn't matter what she thinks. You are comfortable in your own skin, she likes it or she doesn't. Her loss if she doesn't.
 
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I understand that it's a good point, but when the subject of school comes up I'm trying to figure out what to say and how a DJ would handle that situation.

She sounds smart and rich BTW. She has a graduate degree and a CPA and owns a nice house. What the hell is a CPA?

I can pull off making her think I make alot of money. I have my own place and a decent car and a decent job and I bought a new wardrobe with some nice clothes. So I'll just go with it but I would still love to hear how a DJ would react when the subject of shooling comes up. I have a couple years of college (community) done and I want to go back I'm lazy.

I don't think honesty is the best approach here.
 

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What exactly is your educational situation? If you're an average guy getting his college degree, you don't have much to be insecure about. Just tell her, straight up, what your situation is. She may/may not judge you, but if she's sexually attracted to you enough, she won't give a sh*t.

If you want a ****y funny line, just say "so I graduated from kindergarten a couple of weeks ago..."
 

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I may not have been schooled by a preacher in school, but I am a educated man, I have learned how to deal with the real world on my own.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Deacon said:
What exactly is your educational situation? If you're an average guy getting his college degree, you don't have much to be insecure about. Just tell her, straight up, what your situation is. She may/may not judge you, but if she's sexually attracted to you enough, she won't give a sh*t.

If you want a ****y funny line, just say "so I graduated from kindergarten a couple of weeks ago..."

LOL that is pretty good. I'll just tell her I am going back to school I just got sidetracked doing other things such as.. blah blah and blah. I think I can pull it off.

Maybe I can just order a degree online and say I have one for future smart women I meet.

Stéphane said:
I may not have been schooled by a preacher in school, but I am a educated man, I have learned how to deal with the real world on my own.

Stephane, not bad either. But don't you mean TEACHER not PREACHER??
 

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I don't really beleive in education, schools lie to people. A lot of people go to college without a plan, and they don't even find a job. Because, they took a stupid degree like political science.
 

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I understand that it's a good point, but when the subject of school comes up I'm trying to figure out what to say and how a DJ would handle that situation.
A DJ wouldn't be worried about what a women thinks of him. A DJ is confident in who he is and accepts himself. A DJ doesn't need to be dishonest to try an impress a women.

Don't buy into what society tells you.
 

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MacAvoy said:
A DJ wouldn't be worried about what a women thinks of him. A DJ is confident in who he is and accepts himself. A DJ doesn't need to be dishonest to try an impress a women.

Don't buy into what society tells you.
:yes: And stop disqualifying yourself by using trivial comparisons.
 

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I know a lot of women with postgraduate degrees. They aren't that smart. Most of it is just plowing through years of hard work and not having much of a social life. For the majority, their 120K-words thesis, the result of 5 years of work, is read by 3 people: herself, the supervisor and the examiner. They don't make any real contribution to society with that. Some of them are humble about their degrees, some are real braggarts (this is the type that describe themselves as intelligent, strong, independent women with blah degrees in personal ads) because deep down they know that it's not all that jazzy.

Plenty of highly successful men have no degree or just a plain, easy to get bachelor one, nothing fancy. The men who pursue academia to the nth degree are often meganerds and the last thing those women (also with degrees up to their eyeballs) you mentioned want is one of those men. If you're confident with your abilities and are successful, there's nothing to worry about.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She knows I have no degree and she still seems anxious to meet me.
I still am not at the place I need to be where I can walk into a first date and feel completely comfortable. I hate it and just want it to be over but I have to do it. I want to get to the point I walk into that coffee shop and feel great and confident.

I just want to be prepared, I want to raise her interest as much as possible. Thanks for all the advice... as usual I appreciate it.

She told me about another guy trying to get with her gave her HIS # and told her to call. I saw this yesterday getting coffee at the store. Some AFC gave this hottie his # and told her to call.. and she said "NOT" and the guy walked away dejected. I felt bad for him... giving your # out NEVER WORKS why do guys do this?
 

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Stéphane said:
I don't really beleive in education, schools lie to people. A lot of people go to college without a plan, and they don't even find a job. Because, they took a stupid degree like political science.
Hey up yours buddy, I'm a poli-sci major. :cuss:


But I'm going to flight school after graduation, so a useless degree works for me. :cool:

There's a difference between somebody who has a degree and somebody who is educated or intelligent, though. I know plenty of dumbass people who still made it through college (cough, George W. Bush, cough.) Either way, if you have an opportunist mindset, you can make some good money. Working for yourself is the way to go IMO.
 
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What the hell is a CPA degree?

She told me she is getting that, anybody know?
 

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I think it's a Certified Public Accountant, i'm going for my CFP pretty soon. :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ahh, that makes sense. Now how can I neg her about getting that degree, LOL?
 

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Games are pretty lame man, the only methods I use is the shock & awe, and the gunwitch. The gunwitch works wonders, the shock, and awe works great too, but it's risky. Just remember to kino a lot.
 

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MacAvoy said:
A DJ wouldn't be worried about what a women thinks of him. A DJ is confident in who he is and accepts himself. A DJ doesn't need to be dishonest to try an impress a women.

Don't buy into what society tells you.

I think MNIN is saying he knows he has something about him that would be easy to misunderstand when meeting strangers.

And he wants to know how to best approach the subject, as it is uncomfortable.

Noone is perfect, not even a "dj".

I bet many people on here have an issue similar to this. I myself have thought about posting a thread concerning a topic that comes up a lot in conversation when meeting new people, but that I don't really want to talk about.

The "DJ thing" to do here wouldn't be to act like your sh!t is all gravy when it isn't, or to be comfortable with something you aren't, but to know how to handle the uncomfortable situation of sensitive topics arising.
 
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iqqi said:
I think MNIN is saying he knows he has something about him that would be easy to misunderstand when meeting strangers.

And he wants to know how to best approach the subject, as it is uncomfortable.

Noone is perfect, not even a "dj".

I bet many people on here have an issue similar to this. I myself have thought about posting a thread concerning a topic that comes up a lot in conversation when meeting new people, but that I don't really want to talk about.

The "DJ thing" to do here wouldn't be to act like your sh!t is all gravy when it isn't, or to be comfortable with something you aren't, but to know how to handle the uncomfortable situation of sensitive topics arising.
I met a computer programmer a few years ago and we had a great time but she dumped me saying I was too "dull" and "boring", I just don't want to repeat the past. But she did try to hook up with me again when she was lonely and I told her I was busy.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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