"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to deal with dreaded "i need space" ?

Londonman09

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So long story short.. A girl i have a storied past with recently became single. She ididnt run to me but def looked like it was moving that way until she abruptly pulled back. I got the "i need to be alone, figure out what i im doing, move into my own place.. But when i do id,like to get together and clear the air, althh Im not sure what that entails" This was fair enough and Ive backed off other than a few short convos/ teasing. She did pull the whole.. Are you asking me out the other day when i was suggesting she get out.

My question is.. Most would suggest i have oneitis and to move on.. But i still think that the goal of learning this is the get a great girl ine the end. Im past my whoring around days and would like to date this specific girl. So what is the Go nc? Get her out n bed her? play hard to get? Im sure if i ignored her for a week shed come out to keep me interested but i really need to know what the best thing is. One of chick friends says i should disapear and,make this girl come chasing me. This has work in the past with her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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she has given you the answer, she wants space...give her it, lots of it, dissapear, if she is into you, she will come running, if not then get on with your life, you cant force attraction, you can only give it a nudge.
 

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I agree with others as I am doing the same damn thing right now... You have absolutely zero other options. Make her think she is a Kosmonaut!! Space hopefully will get awful lonely for her even if she is out with another male astronaut... you get it?
 

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Okay.exactly.what.i.was.thinking At.one point she.thought i was her soul mate (if you take what she.says as truth)

I kinda screwed up then... When she.did the whole... Oooh is that your way of asking me out? ... I.said... Well im going out tn, but your welcome to join if you're going to be a debbie downer... But then she.said she.was busy. I made.fun of her for it but have not talked since... Ill stay 100% nc... Just dont want to get pulled back in n shut.down again.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Johnnyventana

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Oh yes, this is a super super easy one. As others have mentioned, give her space and lots and lots of space. Go ghost. Be gone. Then you will know if you matter to her. The absolute worse thing you can do is to not give her space and to instead chase her.

Be gone.
 

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in my own experience. There is no way around the i need space line.... EXCEPT... Going completely cold and *poof* gone from thin air. As soon as you hear, "I need space".. if its in person.. do not say a damn word, just get up and leave. if its on the phone, Hang up, if its a text or email, never reply back. Its extremely hard to detach yourself like that if you have feelings or love the person, very very difficult. but IMO there is no other way. Its F*kin crazy but this tactic works in your favor in some illogical way but hey,... women dont operate on logic do they? ;)
 

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Listen to her and give her space. I speak from experience from both sides when I say that is definitely the thing to do. By not giving her space will only push her further away unfortunately.
 

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^^^Read this again.^^^ :up:

Simple ass sh*t. When a woman says that, go ghost. :yes:

Give her space, move the f**k on, and spin more plates! :rockon:

Case dismissed. :rolleyes:
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Don't allow yourself to be friendzoned by maintaining contact. move on
 

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Give her space, but if there is any way of reaching her take advantage of it to DHV. For example if she is on your facebook go take some pictures of you doing something cool that she would enjoy too.

"Hey guys lets go white water rafting... no, i'm not crazy... no really it's on me lets go. Hold my camera would ya?" If that doesn't work give up you lost it. Worst case scenario you have a bunch of cool new pics for social networking. Maybe use those pics to nail another girl and DHV like that. Never admit defeat, never pursue failure...
 
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