How to deal with aggressive/*****y behaviour from women?

[Firefly]

So I was out tonight with a 19 year old Swedish HB9.5. I am firmly in her friend zone but I still am happy to go out with her when I feel like going out and don't have better options because:

a. She gets bought an insane amount of free drinks which she is happy to share;
b. She is great social proof, to the point that I have hooked up three times when I have been out with her with women who have rushed to talk to me when she went off to the bathroom or to talk to other guys (The fact that she doesn't mind if I leave her on her own if I hook up and high-fives me when I tell her I got laid later also makes her a great drinking compantion).

Anyway, we were at a bar tonight for drinks, and decided to go to the upstairs area. There was a party of women in the area who proceeded to tell us the area was "reserved", with one woman in the area being particularly *****y and officious. I realised this was crap and gave her some lip back, although still trying to keep the atmosphere light and "jokey", before my companion became visibly uncomfortable and said we should leave, and I went along with it. I later saw the same woman at the bar, and she seemed too intimidated to say anything to me away from her group, but I did not say anything to her either.

On the way back home, I realised that this was a weakness in my game which I needed to rectify if I ran into the same situation again with a girl I was trying to game. I am ok with standing up to guys when they try to be ****s to me to prove their higher status (I recently had a guy constantly put the moves on a girl I was dancing with, even when she showed she was not interested. I eventually responded by picking him up, carrying him to the other side of the dancefloor and gently putting him down before going back to the girl, who was suitably impressed). But I have no idea how to stand up to women who are acting aggressive in social situations, as I am still concerned that going overboard in retaliating against a woman would be seen negatively by the woman I am with. I know I can't retaliate physically in the same way I can with guys, but should I go in hard verbally against such women when they act inappropriately? Or should I just laught it off and ignore it?

 

[Thundernuts]

hmm, you were stuck between a rock and a spot. Personally i would have said something like " Sorry, i didn't see the sign that says *****es only" or something more along those lines. Bottom line, male or female, when someone shows disrespect you be a man and act right then and there.

 

[DanelMadr]

The first mistake is worrying about how will you look in HBwhatever eyes.
Instead you should worry how will you look in your minds eye to yourself that is.
The best way to smack them down from my pov is to belittle them in humorous way as opposed to mean way. If some b!tch offends you then there is something wrong with you. She shouldn't be able to offend you.

You should keep your replies short and sound. B!tches won't let you say something too elaborate.

Example:
b!tch: Get the @!@&^$ outta here, it is private.
you: "Oh, no need to be hysterical here, calm down. Jeez" And laugh at her.

or just stick your tongue out

or do it like I did one time:

b!tch: Can you make room, so we can order please. (at a bar in a crowded place. The chics were like 16)

me: OK. but just for a while
they just stayed there stealing my personal space. i was standing with my back to them, talking with some friends

me: Hey, will it take long? (smiling)

b!tch: Shut up and turn around

me: .........I just laughed not believing my ears....just telling my friends so they can laugh with me...after a while.......

me: so will you move or not?

b!tch: shut up and turn around

me: You wanna fight or what?(not in mean way but not smiling either...just taking a piss)...and I very lightly poked her with a finger at her shoulder.
I could see her game just came breaking down right there. She did the smartest thing to do...she stayed quiet, looking like she saw a ghost.

Actually some really young and a half men smaller guy ran in to me and said "What is your problem?" He probably thought I really wanted to hit her or hit on her. He seemed more like an orbiter than a bf. I looked at him closely. Then he suddenly realized his situation and lowered his head. (He had some initial courage, I gave him 5 points for that). So I ignored him and asked the girl one more time if she wanted to fight. And told her if she does not, she should watch her manners and behave like a girl.

I thought she will go along with my game but she was stuck up and dumb. She did not see through my weak acting bluff. Well, some people are just too stuck up. She could be happy she did not run in to other guys. For saying something like that to them, they would knock her out. Hope my unintentional lesson will save her in the future.

 

[everywomanshero]

First off, I never take this stuff too seriously. More than once I've really thought someone was trying to be a B1tch only later to find out that's apparently the only way they knew how to approach me. Swinggcat is correct in his preaching that you should always assume she's wanting and reaching for more of you no matter how she's acting. Drill that into your head. The absolute worst thing you can do is to start anticipating this might happen and worrying over it. That will cause you to rub off the wrong way and actually create the behavior you are seeking to avoid. Think positively!

Second, if she truly were that kind of person who walks around hostile, angry, and acting out, why on earth would you care what she thinks? She would have a serious mental health condition that would prevent her from ever having a normal life. If that were the case, it wouldn't matter what she thought anyway and she should seek out a qualified professional.

The answer is to just be normal and do not do anything that doesn't make sense because some "PUW" (pick up weirdo) says so.