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How to Dance Dirty.

Slick Rick-NZ

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Before I even ask this question I know you are all going to larf and make jokes but just remember this is a help forum.
PS I know ACE is just lerking in cyber space waiting for this post to think up somthing witty too say. In advance"Good one ACE"

Now. As some of you already no I haven't been out in a while except for last weekend where I failed!!
During a couple of dances I thought wtf am I aktually supposed to be doing.
So I changed variety ground on and off a bit so it didn't seem to dirty or ne thing and sorta moved my arms around skiming hers. Didn't touch any private areas or anything. (Note this wasn't with the chick that I got the number in the last post.) So can I please have some good advice on what to do and where place hands on her thighs or hips ect.
ANd the bit youv ben waiting for. Is it alg to get a semi when doing this? Lol.
If so should you grind it into her ass or hang off abit so she can't feel it? Haha. I did both lol. Midway during the dance she leaned over to her mate and they giggled about something, could be that?? Yeah so I just wondering what is what, wats hot and wats not. My dancing is not for sure hot.
 

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Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Well I consider myself an above average dancer and I usually just let the girl set the "pace" for the dance. Dancing is all about body language. If you can just match what she's doing then I'd say you're good.

If you get chub, then hopefully it's because you've been grinding with her in which case you should be fine to keep grinding. (Take cue from the girl for this one. If ur grinding and she moves her ass off of your **** then maybe she's a little uncomfortable. This doesn't mean stop dancing with her because if she wasnt interested she'd stop dancing or signal to one of her girls to come c0ckblock for her. lol)

Dancing is all about confidence. My best friend is not the best dancer, but he's confident as heck with his uncoordinated moves and it always seems to work out for him. Most people cant dance so it's nothing to be ashamed of.
 

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Thank you phatboy, I will look forward to this.

I was glad to see this thread because I almost asked the same question. When at clubs girls will grind me (I let them start it), and a couple times I've had girls tap me on the shoulder and when I turn around they smile and point to their friend who is dancing alone... then I start dancing with her.

But most of the time the girl will stop grinding on me after 2 minutes. Is this normal?
 

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As long as you have good rythm and a generally idea it's pretty easy. Just go w/ your instincts and don't be all nervous. The chick probably stopped cause she wanted to look for another dude, who knows. If she was REALLy interested she would stick around for more than 2 minutes though, that much I do know.
 

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Haha thanks OC Speedball you make me feel less of a dooshe.
It seems something simple but there are alot of variables and
there is also reading the situation which comes with experience I guess.
MY two experiences haha were both initiated by the chicks which is not a bad thing in it self but I would like to know how to approch a chick and initiate some grinding. This is a very hard situation as they are almost always facing away from you as you approach and both of you cannot really get a good look at each other to decide if you like the look or not. And this is just so easy for them to continue dancing and ignore you if they arnt keen.
Which is no biggie compared to being slapped haha i guess.
 

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Slick Rick-NZ said:
Haha thanks OC Speedball you make me feel less of a dooshe.
It seems something simple but there are alot of variables and
there is also reading the situation which comes with experience I guess.
MY two experiences haha were both initiated by the chicks which is not a bad thing in it self but I would like to know how to approch a chick and initiate some grinding. This is a very hard situation as they are almost always facing away from you as you approach and both of you cannot really get a good look at each other to decide if you like the look or not. And this is just so easy for them to continue dancing and ignore you if they arnt keen.
Which is no biggie compared to being slapped haha i guess.
I will make a post on how to approach a chick on the dance floor as well.
 

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How to Grind

So I just started a blog called http://www.secretsofclubdance.com on how to dance at a club or any party.

I just made an article post on it and on here as well. I've spent years and years perfecting this- let me know if I can improve on anything. Pictures to come soon.




How to Grind

So you want to learn how to grind on a dance floor, whether it would be for a school dance, house party, frat party or in a club. It can be discouraging or even embarrassing when you don’t even know what to do once you’re rubbing against your dance partner. Here is a practical beginner’s step to step guide on how to grind aka freak dance as some of you youngsters may call it.

1. The Hips - It's all in the hips

Essentially everything we do is all in the hips- from walking to running our hips sway side to side naturally. Plus people hear coaches say use your hips all the time when playing sports because the hips play a vital role.
Here is an exercise you can do right now.
Stand up with your feet shoulder width apart and sway your hips side to side -- left to right in smooth moderate speed.
What happened?
You should notice that your whole body moved as well.
The hips are the key to dancing and grinding.
Most common grind dancing involves your hips to move in back and forth motion usually side to side --left to right.

2. The Knees - Bend them

Next is your knees – they have to bend, but at what point?
Imagine a U and your hips are swinging side to side on the U. The knees will bend in the middle and come back up towards the ends. That’s what is going to happen when you grind. You can make the U as big as you want or as subtle, usually it’s just enough to have it sway.

3. Move to the music/beat

Moving to the beat is important because the music and body has to match up and that’s how good dancers look good dancing, no matter how fast or slow or complicated the dance moves are – it’s always in time with the music – the beat.
When swinging the hips back and forth at the endpoints of the U is where you want the beats to land – the UMPH in the rhythm-- Most club and dance songs are in a 4/4 time. Meaning 4 beats per measure. Just count 1,2,3,4…1,2,3,4 and match it up to the beat. Now match up the hips to the beat.

4. Hands - Hand placement

Now you don’t want your arms dangling besides you as you dance -- you can-- but you want to look good dancing.
Hold out your arms in front of your body like you would for a light jog. Now as you start swaying your hips back and forth and follow the previous steps your arms should follow the same motion as you would for a light jog. You can vary the motion as big or as small as you want depending on how much swagger you want to have on the dance floor.
Now you can put both hands on the hips of the girls – which is a standard.
You can keep one hand on the hips and hold her hand as you dance behind her. As you hold her hand you can extend it in front of her or to the side or just naturally let it lay along the side or on her hips.

5. Head

The head will naturally move if you have the first 4 steps in place. If you want to get jiggy with it, then bob your head side to side or in whatever direction you want it to-- just don't go overboard with it.

6. Feet

When grind dancing you don't necessarily have to move your feet. It will naturally move a few inches. But if you want to be a good dancer here is a beginners guide.
Do steps 1-4. As you sway your hips lift up your heels. If the hips is swayed to the left then you would lift up the right heel. If the hips is swayed to the right then you would lift up the left heel.
Optional: Now you can do the exact same thing as you sway your hips but try lifting up your feet instead of the heels.

7. Grind Dancing

Once you put steps 1-6 together the next step is to find a partner to dance with. Usually in most cases its crotch to butt dancing and each person "grinds" on eachother - which explains the term grind dancing.
Either crotch to Butt - Grind up on your dance partner and use steps 1-6
or
Crotch to Crotch - Be off center from each other and put one knee in between your dance partner so you'll both be able to dance.

Final notes

Once you understand and practice steps 1-7 you'll soon be the best dancer on the dance floor.
The first time grinding with your dance partner remember to have fun and you'll only get better and soon enough you'll be on your way to club dance mastery.
That's the basics for both females and males. Stay tune for more articles on how to dance at a club, now go find a partner to dance with.
 

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A girl who is having fun dancing and seems to be into you will let you get away with some mild touching on the dance floor... her ass is against your crotch after all.

I like to move my hands up and down her body, just barely avoiding private areas but making sure I make contact on the outside of hips, abdomen/sides, open the palms on the way past her chest (around her breasts but not touching), then back down again, whilst doing the grind with the knees and feet in concert. It makes the girl feel enveloped by you and gives her a pretense as to how you might perform in bed.

Might be hard to hold off a chub if the girl lets you do all this but it's gotten me success.
 

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She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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If she grinds doesn't mean she wants to BANG? Where do you guys go where they do that? Especially at your ages.
 

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BigJimbo said:
If she grinds doesn't mean she wants to BANG? Where do you guys go where they do that? Especially at your ages.
I am 19 and go clubbing in NZ but it is not a regular thing and I have only got a couple of grinds just for her perks instigated by them. Havn't progressed any further tha that. I find it hard to gain eye contact with some one on the dance floor and get them to dance with you. MOst girls go out in a group now and just stick to them selves and I don't rely see any guys getting any one they don't know. And I thought we had the sluttyest chicks.
Slick..
 

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Slick Rick-NZ said:
I am 19 and go clubbing in NZ but it is not a regular thing and I have only got a couple of grinds just for her perks instigated by them. Havn't progressed any further tha that. I find it hard to gain eye contact with some one on the dance floor and get them to dance with you. MOst girls go out in a group now and just stick to them selves and I don't rely see any guys getting any one they don't know. And I thought we had the sluttyest chicks.
Slick..

You dont need eye contact to approach or dance with the girls... The grinding part is opening and then you can escalate to sex or whatever you want to on the dance floor. Usually I escalate to finguring and makeouts then seed the pull if its a same night lay.
 

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So you are suggesting I go up behind a chick I like the look of with out her seeing me there and just grinding up on her ass and then see wat she does haha? I have always kinda been a let the lady initiate first kinda guy you know but I am trying to be more forward and agressive by taking action ect instead of standing there waiting for a girl to come to me.
Maybe I shell try it after all I havn't been slapped in public yet.
Slick..
 

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Slick Rick-NZ said:
So you are suggesting I go up behind a chick I like the look of with out her seeing me there and just grinding up on her ass and then see wat she does haha? I have always kinda been a let the lady initiate first kinda guy you know but I am trying to be more forward and agressive by taking action ect instead of standing there waiting for a girl to come to me.
Maybe I shell try it after all I havn't been slapped in public yet.
Slick..
Yes it can work - but there are better openers IMO. Once you know to handle any situation then you can go up and start grinding. I guess my next post will be on ways to open on the dance floor. I'll put it on my site and as well in this forum.
 

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I think I can provide some useful comments here. I have been doing Salsa and some other ballroom dances for about 5 years, so normal club dancing comes as a piece of cake to me ussually. Women are always taken back because I'll pull out random moves that they ussually NEVER see guys doing at that sort of venue. The responses vary, but for the most part are positive.

I would endorse what phatboi posted but add one or two things

I would advocate doing more with your hands. Take her hand and lead her into a turn once in a while. Take her hand and run it through her hair, then place your hand on her back, leading into closer grinding from the front (crotch to crotch). Then, you can grab both of her hands and spin her around, having her face away from you and grind crotch to butt. These are just a few things you can do, but the bottom line is to vary your dancing a bit and lead her into different things. Its more interesting for them and some women will really be into it.
 

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Sweet advice I shall try this next time and be more natural and fun instead of tense and unsure what to do haha.
Look forward to your next post phatboi.
Slick..
 

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Serg897 said:
I think I can provide some useful comments here. I have been doing Salsa and some other ballroom dances for about 5 years, so normal club dancing comes as a piece of cake to me ussually. Women are always taken back because I'll pull out random moves that they ussually NEVER see guys doing at that sort of venue. The responses vary, but for the most part are positive.

I would endorse what phatboi posted but add one or two things

I would advocate doing more with your hands. Take her hand and lead her into a turn once in a while. Take her hand and run it through her hair, then place your hand on her back, leading into closer grinding from the front (crotch to crotch). Then, you can grab both of her hands and spin her around, having her face away from you and grind crotch to butt. These are just a few things you can do, but the bottom line is to vary your dancing a bit and lead her into different things. Its more interesting for them and some women will really be into it.
Exactly. Take the lead and be interesting, don't just dry hump her.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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