How to construct a personal harem

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Dear all,

I'm a fairly resent convert that after a three year blue pill relationship disaster has managed to free himself. As an engineer I have delved right into the literature such as "The rational male", "The book of Pook" etc... ready to apply it in practice.

I discovered that I have always been rather red pill but acted blue pill due to social programming and upbringing.

I recently moved back from my university town to my birth place (city). I quickly joined this student like society club to make new friends (about 300 members). They hold drinks and parties on a weekly basis as well as planning weekend trips. I went in for my first time applying my charm in order to integrate with the members. Turns out the majority (about 65%) are young woman.

I basically approached every one in the club that evening and spread my attention equally, applying a simple form of kino to both the girls and men (touching shoulders). I immediately hit it of with many of the woman who would obviously rub there tits against my chest and shoulder. However after talking to many of the people these girls seemed less interested. Probably because I spread my attention and kino equally not making a exception for a single girl in order to communicate my interest.

The problem here is that I have a double agenda. For one I want to make friends and integrate with the guys. Thus I cannot simply walk in pickup these girls and then walk out (at least not before I bonded with the guys). On the other hand I want to pickup the girls and spin plates turning this club into a small personal harem.

Another factor which may make things difficult is the fact that all the girls I want to pick up are in the vicinity of each other which may cause jealousy or turn them against each other (which can also be a good thing I guess). Also they share the same social circle which may cause me to get blocked.

My plan now would be to apply a low key "invisible" kind of kino such as ass touching or rubbing the lower back of girls in a way others cant observe. Then I want to isolate them through social media and take them out privately in order to spin them.

What do you guys think of my strategy? And what kind of strategy would you guys recommend?

 

[Desdinova]

Baby steps. If you don't already have a personal harem, then you're putting the wagon before the horse by trying to jump into this. Get some experience before you start making plans for a harem. Learn what it's like to have two interested women in the same social setting. Learn what it's like to balance your time between multiple women.

It's possible to have a couple of women you're fvcking in the same location, but to have most of the women there? Forget it. Women talk and there's the potential of tarnishing your reputation. Your best bet is to use your social setting to obtain the best woman there. If you get too greedy, you'll end up with no women.

You're better off finding women in multiple places. But if you've never dated multiple women at once, you have no clue what a pain in the ass it is to get each of their identities straight, their names right, figure out where to put them throughout your week, and the difficulty of dealing with them when they want to become exclusive with you. Again, get the experience and base your decisions on that.

 

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Baby steps. If you don't already have a personal harem, then you're putting the wagon before the horse by trying to jump into this. Get some experience before you start making plans for a harem. Learn what it's like to have two interested women in the same social setting. Learn what it's like to balance your time between multiple women.

It's possible to have a couple of women you're fvcking in the same location, but to have most of the women there? Forget it. Women talk and there's the potential of tarnishing your reputation. Your best bet is to use your social setting to obtain the best woman there. If you get too greedy, you'll end up with no women.

You're better off finding women in multiple places. But if you've never dated multiple women at once, you have no clue what a pain in the ass it is to get each of their identities straight, their names right, figure out where to put them throughout your week, and the difficulty of dealing with them when they want to become exclusive with you. Again, get the experience and base your decisions on that.

Thnx for the input Desdinova, your advice about the harem and inexperience part is solid. However the problem still stands, let's say I'm interested in pulling a couple of plates from the group. Let's say 2 plates at a time (After all I need options). Then I still need a strategy in order to not insult the guys as well as keeping the rest of girls susceptible to me in the future.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It's a nice idea. But there is little point trying to keep secrets in a group of women that socialise together, especially if there are other guys there too, and blue-pill white knights who will bad mouth your behaviour because they think it'll get them laid.

As Desdinova says, have multiple social circles to attend to. This will improve confidence and give you different experiences to talk about with different people, while avoiding conflict.

People will always talk in a group, no matter how subtle you're trying to be. Always. So guard your rep.

 

[RangerMIke]

First lose the attitude that you have a harem... You have women you casually date and have sex with.... which means they causally date other men and have sex with them. If you don't like that idea, then you will never have multiple partners unless you are a really good actor and each of these women are in separate and distinct social circles, but even then, it's my experience that they always know and you WILL get caught so it will not last.

Second, you must be clear with women FROM THE GET GO, what you want. Remember when you do this, you will LOSE a lot of women who will not go along with this.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I agree about needing multiple locations to draw from if you want multiple women. In your club setting, as soon as the women know you're having sex with more than one of them, they receive social scorn from the other women for being with you. That's what works against you. It's similar to why you don't add every girl to facebook, because that is a location, too.

I start on the first date with lines like, "I am totally not relationship material, just so you know. I want to be up-front about that." I think 99% of guys are too scared to say anything like that, lest they talk themselves out of some pvssy. So when you do say that, it is a HUGE demonstration of value. You're telling the girl that she is so easily replaceable, you don't even need to make the effort to tell her polite lies. Plus it works on a reverse psychology level as well.

Women who like you will assume that you have interest in other girls. They want to wonder. They do NOT want to know, especially if their suspicions are confirmed.

 

[FCB]

I'd imagine Its a lot easier to get a harem going if you don't apply any judgement, jealousy etc and you get across that you are looking to spread the love and have experiences as opposed to bull****ting girls in the same social circle. That way you are basically setting it up for competition, but you can't get jealous or judge a girl if she sees someone else, can't be hypocritical. Get the girls talking about how gorgeous x other girl is, or get them talking about their sexual experiences with other guys. But you have it right in terms of isolating and taking them out alone, if it does get around you want the girls to have a lot of fun and it should be like a reward to get your individual attention. In order to pull this off you really need to have really good game, you need to be really social, and you need to bring it in the bedroom to the point that will get around too.
You can use the excuse you are just out of a long term relationship and want to experience life and things you missed out on and are playing the field and don't want to get in a LTR unless you really enjoy the other persons company and vice versa.

 

[Desdinova]

let's say I'm interested in pulling a couple of plates from the group. Let's say 2 plates at a time (After all I need options). Then I still need a strategy in order to not insult the guys as well as keeping the rest of girls susceptible to me in the future.

You don't fvck two women in the same social group. You can fvck two regulars from the same bar, but not the same social group. People in the same group have a tenancy to hang out and/or communicate outside the bar setting. That will work against you.

To avoid upsetting the men, you need to befriend them first. If you fvck any of their exes, you will ruin your friendship with them. However, if you've befriended everyone else in the group, the guy who's ex you're fvcking will either remove himself from the group or he'll be cast out of it.