"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to conquer direct approach AA(letting your intentions known)?

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Hey, I don't have much AA concerning cold approaches. But I have anxieties about telling a girl she is cute or that I noticed her through a cold approach. I've only gone very direct a couple times in my life, compared to hundreds of indirect times(Hey, how're you doing isn't very direct).So, going out of my way to approach a woman very directly is quite scary to me. Like seeing a hot woman getting checked out at a store. I would usually wait until she go out of line, and then I would approach. Also, gaming with people all around me watching my actions makes me nervous also. So, how do I get over Direct approach AA? I think I would do better in my approaches if I went direct more often. Now, I'm trying to push to the number close phase everytime I do an approach, though that isn't easy either. But, there are times when it is necessary to go direct, instead of me nervously holding back.
How do I conquer direct approach AA?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Keep doing it until it feels natural.
 

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Thanks AJ. I'm getting there, I asked a woman during an approach if she was single. She said No, but it's a start.
 

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In "The Art of Seduction" it says "Never make a direct approach - haunt the periphery of their existence".

I personally look for buying signs first. They should hold eye contact and smile. If they don't, they are either b*tchy or not interested. If they do, I usually make an approach, but not if it's too noisy or crowded. You need to have a 10 minute conversation and if there is no room or it's too loud, wait for a better opportunity.

A good line to use next time you see her is "I've seen you before but I don't know your name."
 

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I use the same line everytime. It's very direct.

Heres how it usually goes

Hey, Whats your name?
You go to school here?
Whats your Major?
Where you Stay?
I stay in *****, You should visit me sometime.
We exchange numbers.

I started this up like 3 weeks ago and it has worked 90% of the time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Simple man, I like direct approaches, just tell the girl whats REALLY on your mind, tell her what made you stop and talk to her. Feel the fear and do it anyway. Thats how I lost my virginity, by being upfront and straightforward.
Read David X " Relentless honesty"...hehe I would advice you not to imitate him but emulate his philosophy.
 

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Tell a girl that if you were not gay you would be into her and ask her if you can grope her to help with your gayness.
 

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bigneil said:
In "The Art of Seduction" it says "Never make a direct approach - haunt the periphery of their existence".

I personally look for buying signs first. They should hold eye contact and smile. If they don't, they are either b*tchy or not interested. If they do, I usually make an approach, but not if it's too noisy or crowded. You need to have a 10 minute conversation and if there is no room or it's too loud, wait for a better opportunity.

A good line to use next time you see her is "I've seen you before but I don't know your name."
Ok, cool. I almost always do blind cold approaches. I do Day Game 99 % of the time also. Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I'm on my way to getting over my direct AA.
Nino, I should try that out then. Though, a lot of the times I'm just looking for sex off of approaches. lol :)
 

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Nino-TK's got the right idea; David X has some awesome stuff on direct game.

Remember that women appreciate it when a guy is direct. My favorite way to start is by saying "I saw you over here and I wanted to meet you", and as your momentum and confidence progresses through the day, you can start getting ballsier and ballsier with what you say/do.
 

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bigneil said:
In "The Art of Seduction" it says "Never make a direct approach - haunt the periphery of their existence".

I personally look for buying signs first. They should hold eye contact and smile. If they don't, they are either b*tchy or not interested. If they do, I usually make an approach, but not if it's too noisy or crowded. You need to have a 10 minute conversation and if there is no room or it's too loud, wait for a better opportunity.

A good line to use next time you see her is "I've seen you before but I don't know your name."
This. But you look for eye contact before the approach?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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bigneil said:
In "The Art of Seduction" it says "Never make a direct approach - haunt the periphery of their existence".

I personally look for buying signs first. They should hold eye contact and smile. If they don't, they are either b*tchy or not interested. If they do, I usually make an approach, but not if it's too noisy or crowded. You need to have a 10 minute conversation and if there is no room or it's too loud, wait for a better opportunity.

A good line to use next time you see her is "I've seen you before but I don't know your name."
You have some good strategies, but I disagree with waiting for a better opportunity. If you wait for a better opportunity, chances are good that the girls will wander off to an even less promising location. I don't want to be beating myself up over not approaching and losing the set because they wandered off.

I also disagree with that line; I prefer a direct "Hi, I saw you over here and wanted to meet you. My name is Vice. [launch into high value story]". If the girl is of higher caliber and I'm feeling confident, I'll go in direct with "You're f*cking goregous. My name's Vice."

Looking for buying signs is a good strategy as well.
 

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MurdocIsGod said:
This. But you look for eye contact before the approach?
It usually doesn't matter for me. The eye contact that I get from girls is usually made on the last 1.5 seconds that they have to look up to me from their peripheral vision as I make my direct approach. It's quite entertaining to catch them by surprise. I imagine that's what it feels like to be a panther that's about to sink its fangs into an elk or whatever the hell panthers hunt.
 
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