"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How to break through

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Hi guys I need some input regarding getting contact details. I'm starting to develop good skills in talking to women but often leave the situation without following through. I think my problem is that I'm worried what they'll think of me if I ask for their number. It takes major courage I know. So any suggestions how I can get over the line more often than not.

I have been dating a few girls from online but Rollo is right it is a rejection buffer ! and generally the women are low quality.

So how have you guys moved past the rejection / approval stigma and what are some of your experiences / reactions.

Just one thing though. I'm talking about non alcohol environments.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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window said:
Hi guys I need some input regarding getting contact details. I'm starting to develop good skills in talking to women but often leave the situation without following through. I think my problem is that I'm worried what they'll think of me if I ask for their number. It takes major courage I know. So any suggestions how I can get over the line more often than not.

I have been dating a few girls from online but Rollo is right it is a rejection buffer ! and generally the women are low quality.

So how have you guys moved past the rejection / approval stigma and what are some of your experiences / reactions.

Just one thing though. I'm talking about non alcohol environments.

What I would do is go out and think "I really WANT to get rejected today"...

Go out to a local mall or park and go up to a girl in hopes that she WILL reject you. Get your mind ready for it. Mentally prepare for the rejection and how you will deal with it. When you get rejected after asking for the number, just say "Well thanks anyway" and excuse yourself politely. Then go on to the next girl. Think to yourself: "I bet I can get her to reject me" then try again by running your opener and asking for the number. Actually dont even ask for the number, just say that you'd LIKE her number in order to set up a coffee date to carry on whatever conversation you are having with her etc.

I went out with this mindset one day and got the second girls phone number. The first one rejected me and I was pretty shaken up, but I kept going. I'm 33 dammit, its too late in my life to spend time worrying about being rejected by some chick, I've been doing that all my life and thats why I am here now on sosuave. I just had to DO IT. After a day of rejections you'll be impenetrable.

So yeah, go out and TRY to get rejected. Thats my advice.
 
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