"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to be less of an open book?

Tomo

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I talk ****. Alot of it. As such sometimes I give too much information. Here is your typical scenario - I was chatting to a good acquaintance and for some reason we were talking about relationships - bloke talk. Low and behold I started talking about how I had a girl I was seeing hooking up with another guy etc but here is the kicker - I accidentally let slip how I ALMOST hooked up with a few other girls that night: emphasizing ALMOST. Regardless I let something slip I'd not want someone to know.

Now the problem is a prospective plate was hovering around and now I am worried that her perceptions of me may change. This is basically the scenario that I'd want to avoid.

So anyone have tips on how to change myself?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sylvester the cat

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Talk less. I try not to say anything if I can help it.

Loose lips sink ships.
 

Tomo

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Yeah mate, thats what I want to try and do but I find it pretty hard as my personality is that of a pretty open person and it's how I've formed a large network in all aspects of my life.
 

sylvester the cat

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Tomo said:
Yeah mate, thats what I want to try and do but I find it pretty hard as my personality is that of a pretty open person and it's how I've formed a large network in all aspects of my life.
Takes practise and self-awareness. Just be aware when those lips start flapping. everyone loves talking about themselves and so few love listening.
 

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Learn how to talk less about yourself and learn to make a high interest about others. Let them talk more than you. This is the key of listening.

People love to talk about themselves. When they find someone who will listen, they find him/ her as an attractive person.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mike32ct

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Stop and think before you speak. Quickly ask yourself if you NEED to say xyz. Many times you don't.

Yes, I get where you are coming from. It can be fun to be totally open and say everything you did you or are thinking about.

But it's a really, really bad thing to do. Your reputation depends on it.

I'm an open book on here, but in person, I try not to tell people jack shyte about myself.
 

Dan08

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Actively start to listen to people instead of talking. As already said on here, so many talk and yet so few listen.

Listen. People will appreciate you so much more, they'll value your friendship so much more and when you have **** in your life that you gotta talk about you'll have a whole group of friends ready to listen and support you.

You can't beat it :)
 

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I am starting to slowly see it. Cheers guys. Going to start writing up a note book of how to carry conversation and questions to ask so that the other person keeps talking - hopefully that will teach me more to keep the yab shut!
 

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You guys don't see the OP's problem. He knows he needs to listen instead, but doesn't know exactly how to keep the conversation going, or the "ball rolling" when it comes to new women or asking out, texting, chatting, whatever.

I sympathize with you Tomo, since I struggle a lot on the initial stages of dating, relationships, etc. Specially when now a days woman have this attitude of "win me over first to even date and then win me over again to actually go somewhere". Also it's annoying when most seem like you need to take their words out with a plunger.
 

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Anteros said:
You guys don't see the OP's problem. He knows he needs to listen instead, but doesn't know exactly how to keep the conversation going, or the "ball rolling" when it comes to new women or asking out, texting, chatting, whatever.

I sympathize with you Tomo, since I struggle a lot on the initial stages of dating, relationships, etc. Specially when now a days woman have this attitude of "win me over first to even date and then win me over again to actually go somewhere". Also it's annoying when most seem like you need to take their words out with a plunger.
Totally. This turns me off from dating cause it feels like so much work and a lot of the time the girl isn't even worth it. It's exceptionally hard to find a girl with a good personality.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Anteros

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Totally. This turns me off from dating cause it feels like so much work and a lot of the time the girl isn't even worth it. It's exceptionally hard to find a girl with a good personality.
Yeah, tell me about it!

Even though I never suck up to a girl, the fact that I'm on a relationship very so often, people think that my value decreases due to that "lack of social proof".


Such idiocy.
 

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After years of being honest, open and transparent with people, I can truly say it will get you nowhere. Keep conversation away from yourself and avoid too many expressions of opinions. And for good measure, don't repeat jack shıt you read on this website! This shıt is for your eyes only.
 

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I'm the open type myself, so far no great results. It's great for making friends and meeting new people, but it doesn't get me laid.

I'm the funny guy, I'm always cheerful and up for a laugh, and I get on with most people, but few girls LIKE me, really only the ones who are a little insecure about themselves or shy, I give them more attention then other people do, simply because I like talking to people.

I doubt that people take me that seriously, if I were to start saying less and not just talking, I'd be more intriguing and appear more serious, but at the moment I'm not that fussed whether people take me seriously or not.

I can see a direct correlation between the girls I attract and how much I talk. The ones that dig me, I always seem to be more aloof and quiet around, besides those shy ones I mentioned earlier, who I just give more attention than other people do.

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