"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to be high value.

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You can fake high value and all that stuff using DHV's and stuff, but unless you're really conveying to a women that you ARE higher value than her, she'll know somethings off. First, let's talk about what feeling lower value is. Feeling like you're lower value is when you feel that a woman is too good for you or you feel that a woman would not want to talk to. Better yet, being lower value is just when you care too much about what the girl thinks. That's basically why guys get approach anxiety, they feel that the woman are of higher value, and don't feel like the woman would want to talk to them. That's what being lower value is.

Now being high value is basically when you think you're the sh*t, thinking that the woman would be more than happy to talk to you. Being high value is when you go into sets with the mindset that the girl is no doubt, already attracted to you and has no reason to not to like you. But just thinking you're high value that's not enough. You have to actually LIVE as if you were someone of higher value. Basically, if you THINK you're high value, but aren't actually approaching whatever girls you want like a high value guy, you aren't really being high value. And also, don't go in there looking for outcome, if you're a truly high value guy you don't need anything from the girl.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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All interactions between men and women and perhaps all interactions in general involve taking and giving value from one another.

Of course it's rarely explicit (sometimes is), but usually implicit. Things like body language, tonality, mannerisms (inc facial), mood, words spoken, etc. all imply your relative value against the person you're talking to and indeed the same can be said for the person talking to you.

Example: A week ago I saw a hot girl in HMV. A guy tried opening her indirectly, it was poor as he lingered there and then said something lame whilst pecking in. His body language was like facing her the whole time whilst pecking in a bit, he was over enthusiastic with his words when she replied in a casual, side on way looking at the CD's. It's clear here that she is above him, not just because of her looks, but by the way the guy projects himself implying he's just so happy to be getting anything out of her. He's trying to take value from her in this case, like guys trying to grind with women.
 

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Mad Manic said:
All interactions between men and women and perhaps all interactions in general involve taking and giving value from one another.

Of course it's rarely explicit (sometimes is), but usually implicit. Things like body language, tonality, mannerisms (inc facial), mood, words spoken, etc. all imply your relative value against the person you're talking to and indeed the same can be said for the person talking to you.

Example: A week ago I saw a hot girl in HMV. A guy tried opening her indirectly, it was poor as he lingered there and then said something lame whilst pecking in. His body language was like facing her the whole time whilst pecking in a bit, he was over enthusiastic with his words when she replied in a casual, side on way looking at the CD's. It's clear here that she is above him, not just because of her looks, but by the way the guy projects himself implying he's just so happy to be getting anything out of her. He's trying to take value from her in this case, like guys trying to grind with women.
I see your point but i like to be enthusiastic
 

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Elstud.. you have to actually BE high value to know how to be High Value ;)
 

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ElStud said:
You can fake high value and all that stuff using DHV's and stuff, but unless you're really conveying to a women that you ARE higher value than her, she'll know somethings off. First, let's talk about what feeling lower value is. Feeling like you're lower value is when you feel that a woman is too good for you or you feel that a woman would not want to talk to. Better yet, being lower value is just when you care too much about what the girl thinks. That's basically why guys get approach anxiety, they feel that the woman are of higher value, and don't feel like the woman would want to talk to them. That's what being lower value is.

Now being high value is basically when you think you're the sh*t, thinking that the woman would be more than happy to talk to you. Being high value is when you go into sets with the mindset that the girl is no doubt, already attracted to you and has no reason to not to like you. But just thinking you're high value that's not enough. You have to actually LIVE as if you were someone of higher value. Basically, if you THINK you're high value, but aren't actually approaching whatever girls you want like a high value guy, you aren't really being high value. And also, don't go in there looking for outcome, if you're a truly high value guy you don't need anything from the girl.
886 posts which I wouldn't wipe a cats ass with then you type this one and it has some semblence of thought in it.

Call it progress young brother.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The flipside is that, as I read somewhere, the woman cannot feel attraction for a male who is in her eyes of lower value than herself. She wants an equal (or greater), otherwise why would she mate (mix her genes) with an inferior person?

The old saying that girls should always "marry up" is true, although in the olden days it referred to money and social status. These days I think at a bare minimum, if you are confident and make her feel good by you just being you, then you demonstrate that you have good genes or good potential and therefore she'll be attracted.

Having good potential could mean being totally broke, but with strong ambitions and conviction for future success. Luckily most of us are not in that situation and therefore don't need to try as hard, although I think you should always communicate any ambitions you have to a woman enthusiastically, no matter how trivial. If you don't have long term goals, it's time to make some up pronto, dude.
 

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backbreaker said:
Elstud.. you have to actually BE high value to know how to be High Value ;)
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WTF is with all these acronyms and crap? And value, etc? If you're secure with yourself, fvck what anybody else thinks. Some girls will like you, some won't, but at the end of the day you're still YOU. And that should be a good thing.
 
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