How to avoid the whole "LJBF" BS.

[JackPrescott]

Heres a dilemna. We as DJs all DESPISE the "LJBF" bullcrap. Who the HELL wants to waste time, energy, effort and $$$ on a woman who is sexually interested in another male, and only sees you as a "girlfriend"?

So, when we are pursuing a woman, at what point do we know to back off? Heres an example.

I am interested in a woman, the first date was very flirtatious, lots of Kino, eye contact, ect. The second was sub-par like a muther, no KINO, no eye contact, she fell asleep during the movie.

Then, a week later she is being flirtatious again. She wants me to call her this week, to take her out. I want to, but not as "just a friend"....if this is all she sees me as, I really wont waste my time with her. I want it to be like it was for the 1st date, when she was acting like a girlfriend, not a girl-friend. BUT how to do this? If I kino this woman, and she backs off, it is going to be an awkward time. However, if she responds, things could get interesting.

 

[Qmanchoo]

The only time I've ever fallen asleep during a movie was after a long hard week of work and I was honestly beat to all hell. Don't assume you're in the friend zone because someone may have been having a bad night.

You just have to take the next step to find out. It's that simple.

Just go out and have a great date, have fun, and when the moment hits go for the kiss. If you're not sure shes ready for a kiss use the famous "kiss test." Caress the tips of her hair and say "You're hair is very soft" and if she likes it you're in for the kiss, if not _you_ end it right there as friends and move on.

David D teaches this, but I used to do it naturally (kind of by accident?) before I learned that this was a "technique" deemed "kiss test", which is why I believe it's a solid winner.

If I kino this woman, and she backs off, it is going to be an awkward time. However, if she responds, things could get interesting.

lol, dude, if she DOESNT respond to kino and gets wierded out that's a great way to figure out if she into you. Do something simple like stroke her arm or put your hand on her back while leading her somewhere.

If you mean awkward for you, well, so just mentally prepare yourself "If she doesnt' respond I'm just going to have a good time with this girl tonight, tell her we should be friends, and move on after the date."

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

She's not your girlfriend, stop treating her as if she is. Why shouldn't she flirt and want you to call? She knows that you're wrapped around her finger and will spend time and money on her. This usually ends in the LJBFs zone because someone else more 'interesting' comes along.

How did he bypass the LJBFs zone? HE WAS INTERESTING and did not bore her with just dinner and a movie. Anyone can do that, it takes no talent nor effort. Stand out from the crowd and wow her with your personality. Touch her emotionally and you will touch her more deeply than an AFC.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

The best way to avoid LJBF is to make your intentions clear and known. That way she either has to accept you, or reject you. There is no inbetween when you make it clear you are only romantically interested in her.

 

[xblitz44x]

Kiss her. Kino is useless if you're not going to escalate it to kissing.

Instead of going out everywhere, plan a night at your place. Tell her you'll cook dinner and rent a few movies. If she likes YOU for you, then she'll accept the date because it's time spent with you. After dinner, cuddle up on the couch and watch the movie. Make your move here.