"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How to avoid being a nice guy ?

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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RangerMIke

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When it comes to relationships, think of yourself first. Think about what you want, then only be willing to give your partner what she wants if she reciprocates. Nice guys just fvcking give give give in the hopes that all that fvcking giving will eventually pay off.

Well it doesn't, all it does is make you look like a Beta stooge that is just DYING to be used.

That's it... it's that simple. Put yourself and what you want first. Compromise ONLY when the women you are with is willing to give as well.
 

Slash Dolo

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^Mike nailed it.

Look, there's nothing wrong with being a nice guy in the sense of doing nice things or not being an assh*le. The thing is, too much too soon can make you come off as manipulative, desperate and low value. Taking a girl out on a date and buying her whatever and paying for her meal and this and that before she's done anything for YOU will make you seem like the three characteristics I listed in bold up there. Make it equal. Treat the girl like you would treat a friend of yours. Do you buy your buddy meals when you go out to eat? Do you show up with flowers when you offer to drive your guy friend to the movies? No, so don't do it for a woman unless you're in a serious relationship or she does things for you first.

In short, be a mirror to what she does, not a mirror that opens to a cabinet and contains whatever she wants inside.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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SgtSplacker

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RangerMIke said:
When it comes to relationships, think of yourself first. Think about what you want, then only be willing to give your partner what she wants if she reciprocates. Nice guys just fvcking give give give in the hopes that all that fvcking giving will eventually pay off.

Well it doesn't, all it does is make you look like a Beta stooge that is just DYING to be used.

That's it... it's that simple. Put yourself and what you want first. Compromise ONLY when the women you are with is willing to give as well.
THIS ^. I think it's critical for a man to have a sit down with himself and just really put some thought into what kind of relationship will make you happy. Some dudes like open relationships, I had a room mate that would lock his girl in his room with him all day and just bang away with her. I mean literally they did not leave the room the entire day, he would make sammy runs to the fridge for both of them maybe they would come out at night. He would break up with that girl after a while and the new one would do the same thing with him. So yeah it's different strokes for different folks. Decide and just stick with it man, if a girl strays too far from what you want just dump her ass and keep looking. You will be surprised how many times you will tell a girl "no", and turn your back on her only to have her say "sorry" and totally just try to make you happy doing whatever you want (and this is the right way for things to be). But you have to know what you want and communicate that in a non controlling way.
 

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Be selfish. That's it. Just be selfish. Put your needs, ideas, wants, etc. first.
 

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GS750 said:
Be selfish. That's it. Just be selfish. Put your needs, ideas, wants, etc. first.
I understand what selfish is but a few examples in a interaction with a female would help a lot more ?
 

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SgtSplacker said:
Some dudes like open relationships, I had a room mate that would lock his girl in his room with him all day and just bang away with her. I mean literally they did not leave the room the entire day, he would make sammy runs to the fridge for both of them maybe they would come out at night. He would break up with that girl after a while and the new one would do the same thing with him. So yeah it's different strokes for different folks. Decide and just stick with it man, if a girl strays too far from what you want just dump her ass and keep looking.
That's crazy... I need to try that on my next day off :up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Have self respect and learn the fundimentals That's it.

Nice guys aren't "nice" they lack self respect and confidence.

You can be "nice" but have confidence, charm and self respect and be incredibly attractive to women that way, being weak, needy and lacking self respect is incredibly unattractive.

There's no such thing as a "nice" guy it's a "weak" guy.
 

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dont act like a p@ssy n stands up for urself not bein a push over n make u wut u wanna b havin character not bein afraid to speak up n make urself known. its ok to be cool treatin ppl cool n doin nice things at tmes but if u let ppl b takin advantage of ya n thats where ur goin wrong n ppl wont see u as nothin but a nice dude whos a pushover p@ssy n women wont have no respects for u.
 

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Nice guys do favors for others believing that in turn they will "owe you one." It's fine to negotiate a trade up front but arbitrarily doing "nice" things for people and expecting them to reciprocate is a waste. I'm not saying that you should stop doing nice things for people either, just do it for their benefit regardless whether you get anything in return.
 

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Infern0 said:
Have self respect and learn the fundimentals That's it.

Nice guys aren't "nice" they lack self respect and confidence.

You can be "nice" but have confidence, charm and self respect and be incredibly attractive to women that way, being weak, needy and lacking self respect is incredibly unattractive.

There's no such thing as a "nice" guy it's a "weak" guy.
This is right.

You can still be nice without being a 'nice guy'
 
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