"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How to ask consent?

chuk15

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How do you guys ask consent for sex from a girl? What do you guys do if she does not consent?

I'm scared ****less of getting 20 years in a federal prison for sexual assault because I didn't ask for consent, but I also don't want to scare every girl away by asking for consensual sex at the wrong time and her being creeped out and turned off.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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joe henny

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WTF?! are you kidding me? You actually think men go around saying hey can I have sex? Hell no! It just happens the majority of time through escalation. The only time it's through consent is through flirting that gets dirty but still no one ask's it just happens.
 

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joe henny said:
WTF?! are you kidding me? You actually think men go around saying hey can I have sex? Hell no! It just happens the majority of time through escalation. The only time it's through consent is through flirting that gets dirty but still no one ask's it just happens.
Dude, I don't want to go to prison for 20 years because I didn't get consent because she really didn't want to have sex.
 

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You don't ASK for consent.

You make a MOVE and ESCALATE.

And you keep ESCALATING until she is either fvcking you or she says no.

If she resists or says no, then pull back a step or two and then re-initiate progressive escalation until you are either having sex or she says no.
 

mustfirstregister

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why don't you ask her to sign an agreement for consent. That way you can proof to the authorities that she and you have an agreement.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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terran2k

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if the girl tells you no, then stop. otherwise, you're alrite.
 

Sir Psycho Sexy

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mustfirstregister said:
why don't you ask her to sign an agreement for consent. That way you can proof to the authorities that she and you have an agreement.
^^this

Have the Agreement for Consent Contract pre-typed out. Then all you need to do is have her sign and date it and your good to go. I have a stack of them always sitting on my bedside table.

Also remember you can not lawfully have sexual relations with a female who has a BAC level higher than .08%. The law has stated that she is too intoxicated to give consent for sex. So its also a good idea to have a breathalyzer handy, either in your bedroom or in the bathroom. You can find good deals on them at Amazon.

If in doubt dont hesitate to call your lawyer. Better safe than sorry!
 

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Sir Psycho Sexy said:
^^this

Have the Agreement for Consent Contract pre-typed out. Then all you need to do is have her sign and date it and your good to go. I have a stack of them always sitting on my bedside table.

Also remember you can not lawfully have sexual relations with a female who has a BAC level higher than .08%. The law has stated that she is too intoxicated to give consent for sex. So its also a good idea to have a breathalyzer handy, either in your bedroom or in the bathroom. You can find good deals on them at Amazon.

If in doubt dont hesitate to call your lawyer. Better safe than sorry!
cutting his balls off would be more straightfoward
 

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terran2k said:
if the girl tells you no, then stop. otherwise, you're alrite.
Probably, probably not.

There was a huge thread in loveshack.org about date rape. Several girls gave their stories where they were almost raped and possibly raped.

One such girl talked about an experience where she was alone with a guy. The guy tried to start kissing her and she pushed him off her. He tried again but for some reason, she got freaked out. Fearing that he would hurt her if she resisted any more, she just froze and let him have sex with her.

She claimed that because she didn't actually say no, that she wasn't raped. Either way, it was an emotionally painful experience for her.

Hopefully this will give some guys second thoughts about keep on pushing till she lets it happen.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Radharc

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If this guy wasn´t a troll I would say this was darwininsm in action at its best. :up:
 

chuk15

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OP is a troll. Seriously we been getting a lot of troll threads recently
It's not a troll. I don't want to get charged with sexual assault and go to prison.
 

chuk15

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terran2k said:
if the girl tells you no, then stop. otherwise, you're alrite.
I've heard most girls don't tell you no. They'll freeze or emotionally turnoff. I dunno, since most of you who responded never ask consent before sex, I guess I'm asking the wrong forum. Just so you know, under USA law, if you don't get consent, it's sexual assault or rape.

I've been mulling it over, and if I get any hint that she is turning off emotionally or not 100% into my advances, I'll ask her if she's ok with what I'm doing. If I don't get a clear yes I'll stop.

I still want to have sex, but I don't want to get arrested for rape or assault.
 

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chuk15 said:
I've heard most girls don't tell you no. They'll freeze or emotionally turnoff.
If a girl doesn't want to have sex with you and you continue trying to sleep with her,at some point,she will SAY NO.


Women hint and give signals all the time,but if she's alone with you and doesn't want to have sex....especially if it's like the first date or she just hasn't known you that long,she's NOT GOING TO "hint" and throw out signals,she'll FLAT OUT say no.




Dude,why are you asking this question? Are you a virgin or something?


If you've had sex before,well how did you do it? Did you ask for "consent" or permission then?



You're concern is legit,but I think you're getting paranoid over nothing.
 

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No I'm not a virgin, but according to US law you need to ask consent before any sexual contact otherwise you can be charged with sexual assault or even rape.

I didn't ask for consent then because I was younger than the girls I had sex with, so I thought that since they were older and more mature they would flat out say no to me if they so desired. It was naive of me then to think that, but now I realize just how much of a ****storm having sex with a girl without consent can bring you.

Again, most rape and sexual assault occurs with the girl NOT flat out saying "no".

The penalties are steep, but asking "can I have sex with you" at the wrong time feels to me to be a surefire way to destroy any interest the girl has in you. Is there any "smooth and cool" way to ask for consent?

How would you ask for consent?
This was the question I was asking in the OP, and no one cared to answer it. Most replies however suggested I don't ask for consent which is something I am not willing to compromise.

As a side note, if the girl says no when you advance sexually, how do you react, especially if you can feel it's definitely not going to go any further?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Inside Man

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If you aren't sure, "What do you want to do right now" after an hour or so of foreplay should work. If she's into you she'll say something like, "anything you want to do". If not, she's not ready. But most times with me too, it happens with escalating and nonverbal.
 

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My f-b always says no to me. But I push until she accepts. We never actually verbally agree. Am I at risk for being convicted for rape!!? I mean, she pulls my d!ck out for me. I don't anymore! I'm so confused.

Guys, help!
 

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You better bring a voice recorder with you all the time, you know just in case she changes her mind later and decides to say she never said yes, because then its your word against hers.

God, is it really so bad in the U.S. these days?
 

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definitely won't get 20 years. in a situation like this as long as you get a lawyer you probably wouldn't get jailtime even if convicted.

unless of course this has happened to you multiple times
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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