"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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how to approach this married woman? (moralists spare me)

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- there are a lot others, afraid of a jealous husband. what is the guarantee a "single girl" won't forget to mention a jealous husband and then the same would happen? are you stalking every girl to be sure she doesn't have someone? the possibility to have a car accident is greater than that. don't be paranoid.
Except you know for a fact she's married, so...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i now know a couple of things:
- i shouldn't open a thread about this, i made a bigger issue out of it as it should have been, and it turned out ok
- there's a lot of insecure guys here trying to shame others in order to have the false feeling, that their women is faithful
- there are a lot others, afraid of a jealous husband. what is the guarantee a "single girl" won't forget to mention a jealous husband and then the same would happen? are you stalking every girl to be sure she doesn't have someone? the possibility to have a car accident is greater than that. don't be paranoid.
-i think this thread went exactly as you knew it would

- it's called having morals, not every guy in the world thinks getting his **** wet is more important than anything else in the universe, that's a dangerous line of thought which, while fun, will get you into trouble

- chances are that it is would be extremely difficult to not notice if a girl has a boyfriend unless she either has been planning to cheat for a while and thus preparing or unless she keeps you in the dark about literally everything in her life and you don't think that's suspicious. somehow i doubt that the odds of being caught banging someone's girl are worse than the odds of getting into a car accident, but even then most car accidents are very minor anyway
 

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Who knows she might marry you
 

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Who knows she might marry you
Yeah, he might get lucky :) Then it's his turn. The ones who employ these systems have roles for the "players" involved. Of course with a woman like this the husband usually gets the short end of the stick.
 

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Yeah, he might get lucky :) Then it's his turn. The ones who employ these systems have roles for the "players" involved. Of course with a woman like this the husband usually gets the short end of the stick.
I've meet people who took another guy girl... married or not.... and after it happened the guy still with the girl 5 - 10 - 15 - 20 years later... there is always a reason for everything. We are talking personal stuff after all

The OP is filling a gap the ''husband'' doesn't fill.... maybe the husband doesn't care or he's gay etc....

In the end, moral or not... there is a reason this stuff is happening.... better make the best out of it cause yep its a touchy subject
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've meet people who took another guy girl... married or not.... and after it happened the guy still with the girl 5 - 10 - 15 - 20 years later... there is always a reason for everything. We are talking personal stuff after all

The OP is filling a gap the ''husband'' doesn't fill.... maybe the husband doesn't care or he's gay etc....

In the end, moral or not... there is a reason this stuff is happening.... better make the best out of it cause yep its a touchy subject
I wasnt' saying on the "moral" stance. There are women who would cheat on ANY man. Doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do. I was saying that for some of these types if you sit in the "husband" seat, she will still do all her extra-curriculars outside of the house. The husbands job is to be stable, loving and to take care of her. Her friends job is to let her have fun.

So yes often enough the outside male is filling a role the husband won't or can't do.

But often enough the outside male is simply filling a role that she won't LET the husband do, because that's not her lifestyle.
 

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Yeah, he might get lucky :) Then it's his turn. The ones who employ these systems have roles for the "players" involved. Of course with a woman like this the husband usually gets the short end of the stick.
it would be a horrible idea to ever do anything more than fvck her since she has basically proven that she doesn't really comprehend committment when it's not convenient to her
 

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it would be a horrible idea to ever do anything more than fvck her since she has basically proven that she doesn't really comprehend committment when it's not convenient to her
Well she's perfect for banging, you don't have to take care of her or be too helpful, do your thing and send her back home to her husband when done.
 

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In my opinion it's not about morals but more about the amount of drama it could potentially and a lot of times will bring and the fact that it's probably not worth it. There's too much single pu$$y out there to worry about a married woman.

I guess to add something constructive to the convo, I'd say just treat her like any other chick you're gaming. If you're different and interesting her feelz will kick in at some point.
 

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In my opinion it's not about morals but more about the amount of drama it could potentially and a lot of times will bring and the fact that it's probably not worth it. There's too much single pu$$y out there to worry about a married woman.

I guess to add something constructive to the convo, I'd say just treat her like any other chick you're gaming. If you're different and interesting her feelz will kick in at some point.
the very last thing he wants or needs is for her to have feelz, even though it sounds like she already does
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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