"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to approach girls at the gym?

sigfreud

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Or any other place, really (but mostly the gym)? It's usually quite hard to me to start a relationship (any kind, even friendships) with someone new. It takes a lot of time of seeing them again and again until I acquainted with someone, but after the ice is broken I can keep the boat sailing. People always say "go to someone and say 'hi', then go from there", but what is "there"?

How do you guys strike a conversation with someone you don't know? What are your experiences?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Fuglydude

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My single buddies say that cardio/interval/power yoga, etc classes are really good for meeting chics. Lotsa fit, hot, fun girls in those classes. I've talked to a few chics in the gym, not as a pick up attempt, but just because they were strength/track athletes, and I was asking about dynamic stretching, etc.
 

Annapolis Sailor

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When I go to the gym I am there; focused. I do not approach women at the gym or at work. Never ever EVER! I paid really good money to belong to the gym I am at and really like the place. Men should never date at places like the gym or work. If things do not work out - and they usually do not statistically - then you are stuck seeing that malcontent each and every time at the gym or work. Women will go out of their way to sour your life and never, for the vast majority, will let it go. What if she later gets a boyfriend to mess with you? Then what? No, uh uh... not me. My gym is a like a sacred place for me to unwind and decompress when I work out. At work, it is my livelihood. I never would risk that above all.
 

Die Hard

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When she's doing an exercise, ask her how many sets until she's finished. She'll reply and then you say: "Oh, I'll wait for you to finish then" and keep standind next to her or go sit down on the machine next to her. Then you just maintain the convo with: "This exercise is much better for working you *insert muscle group* than that other one, don't you think?" or "Wow, that's a pretty high weight you set the machine at!" And then just blah blah blah away about anything/everything related to working out.

I've made it a habit to "open" guys in the gym, in between sets. Just starting socializing and making conversation with them. It's become a habit and now when I open a girl in the gym, it's just the same thing.


By the way...I was shocked in the gym last night!! I saw some pretty goodlooking chick working out in the distance, but we had a few brief moments of eye contact. Later on, we were both working out close to each other and she was looking at me and reacted quite enthusiastic when I opened her. At one point she told me her age........ FREAKIN 15 years old!! Never looked in her direction again, after that. I'm a pedophile :(
 

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There are a couple of HB's that work the front desk at my gym. One time I was walking out of the gym and one of the HB's is walking back with chick fil a. I walk up to her, and I said "Thanks, chick fil a is just what I wanted!". She started laughing and I chatted her up for a bit. The main thing to do is use observations and improvise.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Deicide

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I started cold approaching girls at the gym to begin with. So yes, it is a good place as long as you don't limit yourself to approaching there. I would just wait until they finished a set, and go for an approach even if they had their ipod on. They wouldn't ignore me even though they had their ipods on. Go for it! :D
 

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samspade said:
Well, the gym can be tricky. I don't know about you, but when I'm working out I like to be left alone to concentrate and think a little.

That said, if some 9.5 walked up to me between sets and struck up a conversation, of course I'd indulge. So, if you see an opportunity, don't pass it up.

But your best bets are in more chat-friendly areas. Unfortunately, the locker room is out. But the drinking fountain, the coat rack, the front desk area, the stretching mats, etc. If your gym is a super gym with a smoothie bar then you've really got something to work with.

You could also take a class at your gym - more chicks do this than guys, so you will probably have a lot to choose from. If a girl asks you what you're doing in a spinning class, just say, "I'm here to meet chicks."
Agreed 100%. I'm generally a very outgoing guy, but when I'm working out, the last thing I want is an unnecessary distraction. Most women feel the same. The bolded paragraph is money for talking to women.
 
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