"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How the hell do I reply to this?

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A chick just added me on fb, seems like she was a classmate from a long time ago, didn't really care much but I'm planning to use this oppprtunity to improve my conversational skills. Here's how the PMs went


Me: You look oddly familiar, do I know you from somewhere?

HB: Primary school! You're still as thin as ever!

Me: Wow first thing I hear after such a long time is that I'm so skinny hahaha. I'm truly deeply hurt :( hahaha

*at this point Idk whether is because she fails to pick up on the joke or I juat suck at teasing her*

HB: :eek: why hurt? Last time I saw you you were skinny then, now you're still skinny. Haha do you remember me now?

Advice on how to reply to this and also how can I improve on my future conversations?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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oneboy21 said:
YOU: barely, lets recall....
further: what you do for fun..lets hang out
I think that's a little too forward to be honest, might scare her away.

I'd start out by playfully accusing her of stalking you all these years...and then when she denies it tell her that you realize she can't help it since you're such an irresistible man! Do some basic fluff talk, tell her she seems a bit cooler than she did back then, and to send you her number.
 

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Either she wants to hang out with you or not. No need to beat around the bush.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Konada said:
A chick just added me on fb, seems like she was a classmate from a long time ago, didn't really care much but I'm planning to use this oppprtunity to improve my conversational skills. Here's how the PMs went


Me: You look oddly familiar, do I know you from somewhere?

HB: Primary school! You're still as thin as ever!

Me: Wow first thing I hear after such a long time is that I'm so skinny hahaha. I'm truly deeply hurt :( hahaha

*at this point Idk whether is because she fails to pick up on the joke or I juat suck at teasing her*

HB: :eek: why hurt? Last time I saw you you were skinny then, now you're still skinny. Haha do you remember me now?

Advice on how to reply to this and also how can I improve on my future conversations?
Where exactly in this did you actually "tease" her? I don't see it. Are you teasing her for hurting your feelings? Really? You just made yourself sound like a pvssy, whether it was a "joke" or not.

You need to reframe, fast.

You can start by playing stupid about remembering her. Almost give her the impression that she was a nobody that never really grabbed your attention. Make her fight and explain herself to YOU, not the other way around.

Also, try using your skinny-ness to your advantage. Tease her about only going for skinny guys. Or playfully tell her she is superficial. Or just boast about being skinny, like iyou're the fvcking ****. ANYTHING but acting like your feelings are hurt. Save that kind of playfulness after she is already trying to qualify herself to you. Then you can watch her qualify herself even more and give you compliments, if that's what you're looking for. (A lot of guys that know game are still insecure at heart, and need validation just as much as most AW's do.)

As for your current situation..

Clarify you were "joking" as you say. But keep it fun and light.

For damage control, I would say something like.

"I'm just kidding. But I really don't remember you at all. Maybe you have me confused with some other cute skinny guy. Or maybe I just have a horrible memory. :p"

That's more my style. So fit it in a way that suits you. You might not want to copy me word for word.

Good luck.

-Scars
 

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Scars said:
Where exactly in this did you actually "tease" her? I don't see it. Are you teasing her for hurting your feelings? Really? You just made yourself sound like a pvssy, whether it was a "joke" or not.

You need to reframe, fast.

You can start by playing stupid about remembering her. Almost give her the impression that she was a nobody that never really grabbed your attention. Make her fight and explain herself to YOU, not the other way around.

Also, try using your skinny-ness to your advantage. Tease her about only going for skinny guys. Or playfully tell her she is superficial. Or just boast about being skinny, like iyou're the fvcking ****. ANYTHING but acting like your feelings are hurt. Save that kind of playfulness after she is already trying to qualify herself to you. Then you can watch her qualify herself even more and give you compliments, if that's what you're looking for. (A lot of guys that know game are still insecure at heart, and need validation just as much as most AW's do.)

As for your current situation..

Clarify you were "joking" as you say. But keep it fun and light.

For damage control, I would say something like.

"I'm just kidding. But I really don't remember you at all. Maybe you have me confused with some other cute skinny guy. Or maybe I just have a horrible memory. :p"

That's more my style. So fit it in a way that suits you. You might not want to copy me word for word.

Good luck.

-Scars
Looks like I haven't got this teasing thing down yet. Just asking by sayibg 'i'm hurt' I just DLVed myself? So anything with self depriciating connotations should be avoided?
 

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Konada said:
Looks like I haven't got this teasing thing down yet. Just asking by sayibg 'i'm hurt' I just DLVed myself? So anything with self depriciating connotations should be avoided?
Yes.

There is never any condition where you should DLV yourself. But at the same time don't OVER qualify yourself. There must be a balance. Whenever you run into this problem it means you need to amp up it "sexually" so to say, maybe give her a compliment or two.

I hate to quote Mystery Method but... Attract, Comfort, Seduce.

Attract her with ****yness. (Make her qualify herself to you. And then validate her by teasing her sexually.) Comfort her to the point where she feels comfortable with you. Then seduce her.
 

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Scars said:
Yes.

There is never any condition where you should DLV yourself. But at the same time don't OVER qualify yourself. There must be a balance. Whenever you run into this problem it means you need to amp up it "sexually" so to say, maybe give her a compliment or two.

I hate to quote Mystery Method but... Attract, Comfort, Seduce.

Attract her with ****yness. (Make her qualify herself to you. And then validate her by teasing her sexually.) Comfort her to the point where she feels comfortable with you. Then seduce her.
Disagree. You might be able to pull this off in person. Not sure why you would but could be teasing with kino I suppose. On the internet? No.
 

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PrettyBoyAJ said:
Either she wants to hang out with you or not. No need to beat around the bush.
I second this.

Dont flirt.. women flirt. Make small talk then make a move. Dont overcomplicate this.

P.S. OP dont kid yourself in to thinking that talking on the internet will improve your 'conversational skills'.. go out and do some approaches!!!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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jax871 said:
I second this.

Dont flirt.. women flirt. Make small talk then make a move. Dont overcomplicate this.

P.S. OP dont kid yourself in to thinking that talking on the internet will improve your 'conversational skills'.. go out and do some approaches!!!
Well obviously it won't. It never hurt to improve some game over the internet. Yeah, as I've said earlier I don't care much about this chick, let alone make a move on her. I'm using this oppprtunity to learn so I don't fck up infront of someone I want to date.
 

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JustLurk said:
Disagree. You might be able to pull this off in person. Not sure why you would but could be teasing with kino I suppose. On the internet? No.
And I disagree with you my friend. I've done the whole internet game. A large portion of my lays came from myspace (back when it was still cool.) And I would game them to the point that they were READY to get fvcked by the time I met them. Granted, a lot of them I had to get their numbers and do some phone game aswell. But you'd be surprised what a few simple IMs/text can do. Follow up game is required.. But pretty much, cut to the business quick. You can talk big all you want over the internet, but once you meet them in person you have to follow up with it. Instant kino. Seclude, and seduce. I pretty much had it down to a science.

I relate "kino" the same as 'sexual teasing' on the internet. It's very easy to frame the conversation into one where you are suddenly talking about what you want to do to each other. If you know what I mean. It's called seeding.

Perhaps I'm getting a little too advanced for the OP, but as for you, I'm just saying it's not impossible. For most of us, we had to learn through trial and error. I've had very many successful lays, but even more rejects. That's the name of the game.

-Scars
 

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I was dancing in a club with this cougar. She said, "You're skinny." It was sort of a sh*t test. I threw it right back at her.

Cougar: "You're skinny."
Mike: "Yep, lean and mean baby." <I'm skinny but toned>
Cougar: <smiled - sh*t test passed>
 
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