"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm a Blues season ticket holder so I'm at every Blues game. Well you see the usher assigned to my section shes really cute I think. I don't remember her name, but before I go to my seat every game she says hi to me, and small talk ect, same as when I leave the game I'll say bye to her, nothing big.

Anyways i just think she's really cute. On one of the blues forums i talked to someone who also happens to work at the arena, and asked them if they could ask around far me. He did and from what he was told the girl is single. He was also told she was leaving in a week to go to school or something.

Anyways how should I approach her to let her know I think she's cute without looking stupid and embarassing myself?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You don't tell her she's cute. You let her know you're interested by just talking to her. Treat her like a little girl and have fun with her. If shes laughing and smiling and enoying your company then tell her to give you her number if she wants to hang out sometime.


Onegoal said:
Should I take a xanax before going?

Whats an xanax?
 

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slaog said:
You don't tell her she's cute. You let her know you're interested by just talking to her. Treat her like a little girl and have fun with her. If shes laughing and smiling and enoying your company then tell her to give you her number if she wants to hang out sometime.





Whats an xanax?
pill for anxiety.
 

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When she dumps you for being a wimp in 2 weeks are you going to be embarassed when you goto the games?

Anyways ask her out sometime, what is the worst case scenario she says no, and you move on?
 

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Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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vitor said:
When she dumps you for being a wimp in 2 weeks are you going to be embarassed when you goto the games?

Anyways ask her out sometime, what is the worst case scenario she says no, and you move on?
But how do I just ask her out? I mean I don't really even know her, wouldn't that be creepy?
 

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I got to the game early as usual, and said hi to her as usual and talked to her. Anyways so I did ask her if she was doing anything after the game and go hangout and shes like "I'm going home after" so I'm thinking "ok" and I asked to exchange phone #s and I go to get my phone, and going to give her my # as well and she's like "just give it later" and she was smiling, but the expression she gave was like "oh brother, whatever".

She didn't talk to me the rest of the game when I walked by to go get a drink and take a piss. Then later in the third period another usher came to our section, and replaced her after the game why she moved to the next section over and stood by one of the security dudes. After I talked to her before the game she was talking to one of they guys who sits by where she stands and saw them look up at me, as well security guy came after that too.

I'm thinking she must have informed security. I mean WTF. I was polite to her, I talk to her every game say hi and BS and shes always been nice to me before. I didn't think I did anything to creep her out.

So if shes there on Tue, what should I say when I walk to my seat when she sees me? It might be kinda akward. Should I just say hi as usual, or just don't talk to her?
 

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Haha she was probably boasting about a guy asking for her number. Women love that despite what they say.


You accomplished your mission. You wanted to ask for her number and you did. Most wouldn't. There could be numerous reasons for her not giving you her number.

Onegoal said:
So if shes there on Tue, what should I say when I walk to my seat when she sees me? It might be kinda akward. Should I just say hi as usual, or just don't talk to her?

Yeah say hi with a big smile as you pass her but don't try to talk to her. She blew her chance as far as your concerned and she's missing out.


Regarding awkward situations, they're only as awkward as you make them. She might be feeling awkward and she probably thinks you are too but if you go and enjoy the game and not worry about her then you're subconsciously telling her you're not bothered by not getting the number. It will tell her that you've other things in your life.
 

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slaog said:
Haha she was probably boasting about a guy asking for her number. Women love that despite what they say.


You accomplished your mission. You wanted to ask for her number and you did. Most wouldn't. There could be numerous reasons for her not giving you her number.




Yeah say hi with a big smile as you pass her but don't try to talk to her. She blew her chance as far as your concerned and she's missing out.


Regarding awkward situations, they're only as awkward as you make them. She might be feeling awkward and she probably thinks you are too but if you go and enjoy the game and not worry about her then you're subconsciously telling her you're not bothered by not getting the number. It will tell her that you've other things in your life.
Yea. I don't feel nervous anymore now that i asked her for her # and told he she's cute. I'll just say hi to her, and its up to her to move in if she wants. Doubtful though.
 

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congratulations goalie....you have accomplished your mission. I bet that there are many other guys who like that same girl but dont have the cojones you showed with her.
just act normal cause she missed her chance with you.
you did a good job, now, do it again with any other woman you like..
remember that a thousand rejections feel better than 1 single regret.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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librito said:
congratulations goalie....you have accomplished your mission. I bet that there are many other guys who like that same girl but dont have the cojones you showed with her.
just act normal cause she missed her chance with you.
you did a good job, now, do it again with any other woman you like..
remember that a thousand rejections feel better than 1 single regret.
Thanks, So what should i say when i see her tommorow?
 

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Onegoal said:
I'm a Blues season ticket holder so I'm at every Blues game. Well you see the usher assigned to my section shes really cute I think. I don't remember her name, but before I go to my seat every game she says hi to me, and small talk ect, same as when I leave the game I'll say bye to her, nothing big.

Anyways i just think she's really cute. On one of the blues forums i talked to someone who also happens to work at the arena, and asked them if they could ask around far me. He did and from what he was told the girl is single. He was also told she was leaving in a week to go to school or something.

You see her at every game, think she's cute, and talk to her every game, but you want someone else to find out if she's single? Does that sound like something a confident, secure man who puts his ego on the line to get laid would do? You should have asked her yourself the first time you met her. Even if she does agree to go out with you, if she founds out that you had to go online to a forum to find out if she was single, it won't turn her on very much.


Anyways how should I approach her to let her know I think she's cute
without looking stupid and embarassing myself?
"Hi, how are you? Would you care to join me after the game for a quick coffee?"
 

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DonJuan11 said:
"Hi, how are you? Would you care to join me after the game for a quick coffee?"
coffee 11pm at night? I dont like coffee. When i talked to her i basically said that though, want to go hangout, get a drink afterwards and she said "Im going home":(
 

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I didn't get to see her, she wasnt there. Not that it means anything, but the game was against the Coyotes and not very many people there, and they only had a couple ushers on the mezzanine level until later in the game they had a couple of the ticket guys being ushers. The Blues do that alot though when the games dont sell well they don't scheduel a lot of ushers.

I'll likely see her next tue since its a game against the Red Wings. Do you think she will forget I asked her out?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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just take it easy my friend

say hi w/ a nice big smile

as if u dont care about what has happened...

be friendly and just move on

u dont say anything...
 

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all this time u were saying blues i thought u were talking about chelsea
 

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So she was working last night. So before the game I went up to her said hi, said "here is my number I forgot to give you last game when we talked" and she said thanks. Anyways I chatted a couple minutes with her. Just asked if she's going to school and she said yea, but that she took a semester off and goes to xxx however she said she goes to the other campus though" I live and go to the xxx campus I told her which is a bummer. I told her I havent seen you last few games but that I saw you as a fan at the Red Wings game and she said yea her and her brother went"She was with two guys" So I guess that can be a good sign. Anyways I just asked her if she works other events, she siad she worked basketball the other day, and working the hockey game this weekend. I didn't talk to her much more after that I told her" I don't want to bother you while your working and that I'll talk to you later" and she said ok. It was before the game and in reality I could have stood there for a good 15 mins if I wanted to because she talks to other fans alot during the game, but I didn't want to come off as persistant, so thats why I really cut it at that. She talks to fans alot so I could have chatted longer.

How did I do? Should I have asked for her number too when I gave her mine? Do you think she would have given it to me if I asked? I'm kinda kicking myself over that. I mean if I got a real number from her then I would be in control and in the drivers seat.

I thought I did OK. So what are the chances she calls me back? She didnt act creeped out or anything, she was more talkative than last time when I asked her out, but didnt get a chance to give her my # cause I didnt have it written down. If she doesn't call me then no loss, I tried.
 

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Onegoal said:
I didn't talk to her much more after that I told her" I don't want to bother you while your working and that I'll talk to you later" and she said ok.

Never say that. DJ's don't think they're bothering somebody, DJ's know all girls are lucky to be talking to them.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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