"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hi,

My friend just recommended me this site and I am taking some time to read the articles. I must admit I am still a beginner when it comes to dealing with women but I am doing my best to improve.

I just called a girl on her mobile at around 9pm Sunday local time and there was no answer. Then I called again at around 10pm (and left it ringing for quite some time) and again no one answered. I thought she was blowing me off so I was prepared to let it go. I didn't leave any message on both times as there was no such function here.

At around 10.45pm, she texted me and it said something like 'sorry left my phone on silent mode was watching movie :D'. I haven't replied since.

Should I text her something tomorrow morning? When should i call again to set up something? Am I displaying neediness here by calling twice?

Appreciate all your help!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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yeah! said:
I just called a girl on her mobile at around 9pm Sunday local time and there was no answer. Then I called again at around 10pm (and left it ringing for quite some time) and again no one answered. I thought she was blowing me off so I was prepared to let it go.

At around 10.45pm, she texted me and it said something like 'sorry left my phone on silent mode was watching movie :D'. I haven't replied since.

Should I text her something tomorrow morning? When should i call again to set up something?
That she wrote back to you means she values you. You should have texted her back immediately saying "Sorry, figured there was a reason! Are you free to chat now?" but since that time has past, you may write back to her as soon as possible (not too late at night of course) and return to your usually scheduled interactions. (Ie, talk about whatever you were going to when you'd called at 9pm on Sunday)

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Johnny Soporno said:
That she wrote back to you means she values you. You should have texted her back immediately saying "Sorry, figured there was a reason! Are you free to chat now?" but since that time has past, you may write back to her as soon as possible (not too late at night of course) and return to your usually scheduled interactions. (Ie, talk about whatever you were going to when you'd called at 9pm on Sunday)

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Added some details here. Thanks.
 

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Who puts their phone on silent mode? Unless she was at the theater, in which case, she would just shut it off, right?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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horaholic said:
Who puts their phone on silent mode? Unless she was at the theater, in which case, she would just shut it off, right?
I, for one, only turn my own phone off when in certain areas of hospitals, and when ordered to explicitly by flight-attendants during take-off and landing procedures. Otherwise, I just set it to silent mode :)

Applying Occam's Razor: There would be no reason for her first to ignore your call, and yet still to bother texting you with an apologetic & encouraging reply, since she owes you nothing?

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Update

OK I texted her the next morning to say no worries and then some small talk and she texted back immediately. Back and forth another 1 time before she said she is starting work soon in which I replied that I will call her soon.

Tonight (Wednesday, 3 nights after that Sunday night) I called her at about 9pm local time and there was no answer. I didn't call back the 2nd time and there was no news from her so far.

If she doesn't reply (text or call) tomorrow morning or after that, so I just drop her? Did I call too soon? Any other thoughts?

Please advise. Thanks
 

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Johnny Soporno said:
I, for one, only turn my own phone off when in certain areas of hospitals, and when ordered to explicitly by flight-attendants during take-off and landing procedures. Otherwise, I just set it to silent mode :)

Applying Occam's Razor: There would be no reason for her first to ignore your call, and yet still to bother texting you with an apologetic & encouraging reply, since she owes you nothing?
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there is SEVERAL reasons why should could potentially not answer her calls and then text reply

1. she has a BOYFRIEND (this is probably the more plausable reason)

2. she likes games (why TEXT back instead of return the call. he didnt text her he called her, but she choose to "half" get ahold of him)

she didnt CALL back because she either could not talk at the time or she didnt WANT to physically talk to him.

no one thinks its weird she didnt actually return any phone calls? he has called her more than 3 times. and when she DOES reply its with a text?
 

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You need to scale things back or you risk repeating my mistakes of doing too much before actually going out with her. Text and phone game should be focused with the ultimate goal is to see her again. If your texting isn't working towards that goal then stop doing it.

Rule 1: Text to get the phone call.
Rule 2: Phone to set up the date.

After those rules are fulfilled limit communication and keep her wanting more. That wanting is what drives up her desire to see you again. If you give her all your attention then you risk the following:

A) Blowing yourself out by saying or texting something stupid, like DLVing yourself
B) Lowering her desire to see you since she's been in touch with you so much already--in effect too much of a good thing.
 

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DavenJuan said:
there is SEVERAL reasons why should could potentially not answer her calls and then text reply

1. she has a BOYFRIEND (this is probably the more plausable reason)
Sorry, I presumed that she would have been WITH A GUY at the movies. I took for granted that she had a boyfriend, since she is a desirable girl.

Like I said, she doesn't OWE Yeah anything, so the very fact that she replied at all suggests she's interested.

DavenJuan said:
2. she likes games (why TEXT back instead of return the call. he didnt text her he called her, but she choose to "half" get ahold of him)

she didnt CALL back because she either could not talk at the time or she didnt WANT to physically talk to him.

no one thinks its weird she didnt actually return any phone calls? he has called her more than 3 times. and when she DOES reply its with a text?
I know countless women who DON'T enjoy talking on the phone - they LOVE texting, and do it constantly. I don't find it unusual at all, and I don't see it as games-playing either.

You are certainly welcome to presume something sinister from what you've heard here - I wouldn't and don't.

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by Johnny Soporno
Like I said, she doesn't OWE Yeah anything, so the very fact that she replied at all suggests she's interested.
she is as interested as her "options".

im not disputing her being interested. im saying that her interest 'level" doesnt seem to high when she gets multiple phone calls from him and she respsonse with a single text. thats all. does she even know what he wanted? she texted back to excuse herself for not answering.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorpono
I know countless women who DON'T enjoy talking on the phone - they LOVE texting, and do it constantly. I don't find it unusual at all, and I don't see it as games-playing either.

You are certainly welcome to presume something sinister from what you've heard here - I wouldn't and don't.
i dont want to come of pestimistic by any means. nor do i want to assume she is being 'sinister". i am not claiming her "texting" him as unusual. i think her texting him after he called TWICE was a bit unusual.

the bottomline.. hes ALREADY questioning her actions. not to necessarily say she is "up to something" , but if he is expecting returned phone calls, and/or responses and not getting them..

then move on
 

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Buddy, if she called him back that would've been her throwing herself at him. So he called twice and she texted once... are you saying she should be horny as hell for him, and call him back saying "OMG im sorry i need to make it up to you!"?
That doesn't happen unless you and her are an item.
 

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So should I call her back again if she text me? And when?
What should I do if she doesn't contact me?

Thanks for the advice.
 

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1. get other women in your life so you don't feel so urgent to get with this chick
2. Call her back right when she texts you, cause you know she's at her phone. If she doesn't answer, put her on the backburner.
 
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