"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How should I ask for a phone number, and what do I do with it?

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You might have seen my previous post about getting the same girl a b-day present...anyway, I was just wondering, how exactly does one get a phone number? I'm guessing we should get into a convo about hanging out, and ask her number there - am I right? When I get it, when should I call? I see her daily at school anyway, so I wonder if it matters if I wait a few days or not. And when I do call...what do I do? Set up a date or have a good conversation with her?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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you can just bring it up out of nowhere, i do that sometimes.

as for what you should do with the number, i suggest writing it on a piece of paper and eating it:rolleyes:

seriously though, you use that number to set up dates(or you can put it as hanging out, doesn't really matter). or to get hw help
 
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you can just bring it up out of nowhere, i do that sometimes.

Like, just going up to her and going, "Hey, what's your Phone Number?"

That works? @_@
 
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Number should be received while in the midst of making plans. That's the normal way of rolling with a number. Even email can be fine.

Of course, I'm not normal though. My #1 target, I have her address, but not her number/email. Uh huh...

-"Hey, what's your Phone Number?". It CAN work, given the right moment. Usually..you'll have to have more to it when she questions it!
 
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Docs said:
Number should be received while in the midst of making plans. That's the normal way of rolling with a number. Even email can be fine.

Of course, I'm not normal though. My #1 target, I have her address, but not her number/email. Uh huh...

-"Hey, what's your Phone Number?". It CAN work, given the right moment. Usually..you'll have to have more to it when she questions it!
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lol...oh, I have one obstacle to getting her number...she gave me her screen name, can't she just say that I could IM her to make plans or w/e? Or am I over thinking this?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A number is not required. A email is not required. Hell, a NAME is not required. (see lastest WIPFR in sig...and Feb FR)

One lesson you should of learnt already from reading here is that Pickup is not linear. There is no one way to do something, but there are an infinate amount of ways to do one thing.

So you got her screen name. That's fine. Fluff her up, ask her to go somewhere, and if you want, get her number so you can call her if required.
 
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I guess I don't really need her number, when I think about it. You're right - I guess I just assumed I needed it, but in the end I can do fine without it.

Eventually, of course, I hope to get it - she's usually online daily, but spends a lot of time away - a phone number could let me reach her if she isn't available on aim.
 
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jesus fvcking christ, just ask her for the number why the hell are you even thinking about this. If she likes you she gives it to you, if not she doesn't and you know where you stand. Goddamn...what happened to guys with testosterone?
 
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sethosayher said:
you can just bring it up out of nowhere, i do that sometimes.

Like, just going up to her and going, "Hey, what's your Phone Number?"

That works? @_@
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yes. i actually went on a number asking spree a month or two back.

went up to 4 different girls that i kinda knew, like talked to once or twice. just went up to them "gimme your number...before i don't want it" i got 4 numbers that day.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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are you ****ing kidding me. thats all i have to say.
 
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Guys, lay off the noob. We were all there at one time.

However, sethosayer, we aren't here to hold your hand.

Read the stickies at the top of this forum. If you had, you wouldn't be asking this question.

To answer something...YES, you ARE overthinking this. Making plans with her isn't rocket science, it's human nature. If you have her screen name already, just do some small talk with her and make plans.
 
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