How sexual do you think a guy should be from the beginning of interactions with a girl, or when should they start?

[TheGambino]

Super cexual

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Relevant quotes:

Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.​

-Otto Von Bismarck​

Life is a cruel teacher. She loves to give you the test first and the lesson later.​

-Daymond John

Basically I'd rather learn from the experiences that you guys are having that I have not had yet, than try to reinvent the wheel and learn absolutely everything the hard way lol.

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Relevant quotes:

Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others.​

-Otto Von Bismarck​

Life is a cruel teacher. She loves to give you the test first and the lesson later.​

-Daymond John

Basically I'd rather learn from the experiences that you guys are having that I have not had yet, than try to reinvent the wheel and learn absolutely everything the hard way lol.

Your example will save alot of guys time.

 

[BeExcellent]

I'm in the camp that while you should show restraint and intelligence, you should be as sexual as possible as fast as possible, it's a balancing act that differs per situation, but it's better to get blown out because you're doing too much too fast, than getting friendzoned because you were trying to be a gentleman

Advice from the old lady:

I'm in the same camp. It's MUCH easier to learn to dial back the sexual overtness and learn to calibrate rather than learning to be sexual in the first place. Having said that every situation is different; each interaction between two individuals is unique. What works well for girl A may bomb with girl B.

You want to strive for appropriate calibration. You get calibrated by learning to read people, particularly their nonverbal cues. I can read a man's reaction to me very very quickly...within seconds most of the time. And I respond according to the context, the level of reciprocal attraction, and the environment. I've known professional people in professional environments whose cues showed sexual interest despite their overt communication remaining the utmost in professionalism. It is very nuanced. It is the glance just a split second too long or the passage of the eye over the body, small details like that. It's the extra smile, the ever so slightly off color statement...

Learn to read those small details (through trial and error) and learn to incorporate those cues consciously into your behavior...the behaviors will become unconscious faster than you realize...and will create the subtle vibe that is very sexy without every woman being able to put her finger on exactly why. There will be "something" about you. That's what you want. That special allure, that special "something."

 

[IKO69]

Match her level

 

[devilkingx2]

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Your example will save alot of guys time.

another good one is that me and my buddy used to work together and one day we met a girl that was instantly DTF for him, like within an hour of her coming into the place we were working at (a YMCA) she wanted him to show her where the bathroom is and (according to him, I wasn't there for this next part) when they got there she said something like "do you want to come in with me?" but he turned her down because he thought she was ugly and because we were at work and our boss might notice if he spends the next hour fooling around with a girl in the bathroom

later on in that same day I ran into that girl and was talking to her about something or other and she showed me a video on her phone and I moved her hand so that I could see the thing she was showing me better, but the instant I touched her hand she flinched like she was a demon and I am holy water, lmao. that's an even more overt example of the principle (at this point I rolled my eyes and walked away from her, went home since my shift was done)

(yes, most of my friends are better at getting girls than me, because the ones who aren't are so ummm... on the spectrum, that even though girls would pick me over them, their awkwardness would still screw us both lmao. it's a no-win situation, tis why I work alone, like batman.)

 

[devilkingx2]

Match her level

I dunno about this, seems like a bad idea. her goal isn't necessarily going to be getting you laid, so if you're matching her there's a high chance you'll be fast tracking yourself to accomplishing her goal rather than your own (assuming that she's the kind of girl who would rather wait several dates to boyfriend zone you or put you as beta bux or just friends because she's not looking for anything but could be seduced early by your alpha behavior)

it'll work fine if she really wants to fvck though.

 

[IKO69]

I dunno about this, seems like a bad idea. her goal isn't necessarily going to be getting you laid, so if you're matching her there's a high chance you'll be fast tracking yourself to accomplishing her goal rather than your own (assuming that she's the kind of girl who would rather wait several dates to boyfriend zone you or put you as beta bux or just friends because she's not looking for anything but could be seduced early by your alpha behavior)

You have to look at it as a dance - yes you will have to lead it but she'll "allow" you to direct her over the course of the interaction. That is what flirting is all about. If you overdo it you could turn her off - so you "in sync" with her....the thing is if she really likes you it won't take long to escalate. I'm not saying you will bang her the same day but you can tell when there is mutual attraction between two people.

If both parties are not on the same wavelength there will be friction. That is why I said match her level.