"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How Quickly To Follow Up With Bar Girls

gravityeyelids

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I havent had much luck with turning girls I met at the bars and number closed into a meetup. I mean when you think about it, girls are much more likely to meet up with a guy that isn't a "rando", a guy who has friends in common with her. In my experience, girls that you don't know, that you just cold approach at the bar, are very hard to meet up with. Once the alcohol fades, you are essentially just another dude she gave her number out to at the bar, regardless of how smooth you were.

Met this cute redhead last night, closed her right before I left the bar. Had a brief text convo soon after closing her:

Me: you stole my name [she has a very similar name to me]
Her: No, you stole mine! I'm probably older therefore the originator..
Me: How fvcking dare you
Her: YOU ARE OUTTA LINE SIR!

I'm tempted to followup while the iron is hot, keeping this fun/stupid convo going and pushing for a meetup this weekend (probably involving alcohol and a bar or party), while i'm still fresh on her mind.

The other option is what I typically do for day game or other girls, waiting a couple days (3ish) and then establishing contact and going for a more laidback meetup (coffee) during the week.

What are your thoughts for random bar girls? Strike while the iron is hot, or cool it for a few days in order to not seem needy and push for a meetup the next week?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Harry Wilmington

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I treat all girls I meet in public the same, whether it's at a party, bar, randomly meeting them in line someplace, etc.:

1. Talk to them, make 'em laugh and interested in me
2. Get the number
3. Wait 4 days to contact them - no emails, texting, or calling in between
4. Call them up and ask for a date

Continuing to text her "rapport-building" convos isn't necessary - if you made a good enough first impression she'll not only remember you, but be more than happy to say "yes" to your date request. (Note: I'm pretty sure someone will come on here and refute the things I've just said here, but as I always say - this method is what got me favorable results.)
 

gravityeyelids

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Harry Wilmington said:
I treat all girls I meet in public the same, whether it's at a party, bar, randomly meeting them in line someplace, etc.:

1. Talk to them, make 'em laugh and interested in me
2. Get the number
3. Wait 4 days to contact them - no emails, texting, or calling in between
4. Call them up and ask for a date

Continuing to text her "rapport-building" convos isn't necessary - if you made a good enough first impression she'll not only remember you, but be more than happy to say "yes" to your date request. (Note: I'm pretty sure someone will come on here and refute the things I've just said here, but as I always say - this method is what got me favorable results.)
I see the reasoning behind this...but there wasnt much rapport at all with this girl. I had been seeing her from across the bar. My friends were leaving so i knew i had to make a move. Walked up, gave the generic "you look familiar. what's your name?". Talked with her for literally like 30 seconds before saying that my friends were leaving so she should put her number in my phone. Haha she goes "you're very bold and straightforward". I replied, "yes, I am". Point being, it was such a brief interaction that if I wait four days i dont anticipate her remembering me much.

Regardlesss, i'm gonna try your method. I've ruined way too many numbers by texting/calling too soon.
 

Harry Wilmington

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gravityeyelids said:
I see the reasoning behind this...but there wasnt much rapport at all with this girl. I had been seeing her from across the bar. My friends were leaving so i knew i had to make a move. Walked up, gave the generic "you look familiar. what's your name?". Talked with her for literally like 30 seconds before saying that my friends were leaving so she should put her number in my phone. Haha she goes "you're very bold and straightforward". I replied, "yes, I am". Point being, it was such a brief interaction that if I wait four days i dont anticipate her remembering me much.

Regardlesss, i'm gonna try your method. I've ruined way too many numbers by texting/calling too soon.
Ideally, you would have had more rapport time with her. This is why it's important to talk to a girl within 3 seconds of you both noticing each other. Still, the fact that she gave you the number that fast means she was interested - I've had times where I talked to girls for a half hour and couldn't get the number, which meant low to no interest. So, even though rapport is ideal, as long as she's giving you the number it's all good.
 

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If you're good looking and have status, you do not need to build rapport.

If you're beta, you need to build rapport to get her to like you.

In the name of nismo, Case Closed.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Krueg

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You must ask for the number when you first meet her! Thats how she knows your interested, and lets you know where she stands!
 

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My bar game is very simple. I don't take my phone out of my pocket. I've spent too many hours chasing up girls from clubs and bars to give a crap anymore. The first thing I push for is sex that night and if that's not on the cards, I give her my number, if she's interested, she'll text. If you get one of the girls who do text, you're in the driving seat. The harder you escalate and play with her the more likely she will go home with you or at least remember you if she's drunk. If you wait around with these girls, you're just a blip in their radar, strike whilst the iron is hot and it's hottest on the first night or the next day if it's really on.
 
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