DonGorgon
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ZenoB said:
thats how the game goes with most modern liberal women..lol
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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thats how the game goes with most modern liberal women..lol
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
*Update
- Day after the last update- she tries to talk to me on facebook (hey, how're you?). I don't reply.
- Last night (one week later)- out with my buddy at a bar and she appears with her friends. I'm cool and cordial again. They're going to another bar and invite us to join them. I tell them sure we'll probably join you in a bit. They all seemed really happy and so I'm thinking there's a chance to hook-up again.
My buddy and I have another drink and flirt with some chicks at the bar. I get a text from her asking if we're going to meet them or not. I reply we will.
-this is where I start to cringe-
So we do go there and we're all sitting there and this girl pretty much ignores me. They decide to leave and go home and I'm feeling pretty confused. We leave the bar with them and when we say our good byes I go for a kiss on the lips and she refuses.
Ouch right? Fortunately I didn't make a scene and just left with my friend, who couldn't believe the way this girl acted (he'd nevr met her before). I felt like a fool and was pissed for letting her waste our time. I thought I could handle this girl and still get some action, but she got to me.
She played a clever game. Next time I'll keep ignoring her, because I think there's something seriously wrong with a chick like this. What sucks is I really like her friends they're some really cool people and I don't want to burn bridges with any of them. And yes, I'm still a bit upset that it went from something so awesome to something this lame.
Bottom line- it is wasting my time when I could be hooking up with other chicks who haven't disrespected me.
- Day after the last update- she tries to talk to me on facebook (hey, how're you?). I don't reply.
- Last night (one week later)- out with my buddy at a bar and she appears with her friends. I'm cool and cordial again. They're going to another bar and invite us to join them. I tell them sure we'll probably join you in a bit. They all seemed really happy and so I'm thinking there's a chance to hook-up again.
My buddy and I have another drink and flirt with some chicks at the bar. I get a text from her asking if we're going to meet them or not. I reply we will.
-this is where I start to cringe-
So we do go there and we're all sitting there and this girl pretty much ignores me. They decide to leave and go home and I'm feeling pretty confused. We leave the bar with them and when we say our good byes I go for a kiss on the lips and she refuses.
Ouch right? Fortunately I didn't make a scene and just left with my friend, who couldn't believe the way this girl acted (he'd nevr met her before). I felt like a fool and was pissed for letting her waste our time. I thought I could handle this girl and still get some action, but she got to me.
She played a clever game. Next time I'll keep ignoring her, because I think there's something seriously wrong with a chick like this. What sucks is I really like her friends they're some really cool people and I don't want to burn bridges with any of them. And yes, I'm still a bit upset that it went from something so awesome to something this lame.
Bottom line- it is wasting my time when I could be hooking up with other chicks who haven't disrespected me.
Yes I've experienced this. They come back, but only to double check that they can still have you. The minute you let them know they can they revert to disinterest. At that point it's probably impossible to raise their interest again.
Yeah, after that last episode, I realized the bridge is pretty much burned so I went ahead and napalmed it too- deleted her number from my phone, pre-emptively deleted her from facebook. Still have her friends on there though.bigneil said:
Thanks for all your input guys. I definitely learned a lot from this fling- how not to fall into that trap again at the end (the rest I handled alright). But also that I still need to learn to sort of re-wire my brain and not let myself get attached so quickly again- not seek so much validation from something as unstable and out of my control as a woman.
I think I knew she was going to be trouble from the beginning, because she's one of those "strong and independent" blond Scandinavian chicks. I was up for the challenge.
"Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own." ~ Robert A. Heinlein,
This is a good way to measure if a woman loves you - just ask yourself: how much does she care about YOUR happiness?
This is a good way to measure if a woman loves you - just ask yourself: how much does she care about YOUR happiness?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hey guys, it's been a long time since I've been on the forums. A new girly has brought me back, and I might add her story to this thread, but before that here is an update to what happened with the Swedish girl (the story above) because I think the real-world experience on here is the most helpful.
- About a year ago I saw her at another event. This time we didn't talk to each other, but I was cordial with her friends.
A few days later (after a late friday night out on the prowl) I get back to my apt and there is a message from her on facebook from just like 20 minutes ago, and it was like 3 or 4am. Even though I had deleted her from my friends, there was still a message left in the email and she continued it.
The message simply said: "Hey, how are you, did you like the event?"
It was an obvious feeler, possible booty call. Instead of giving into the temptation I decided to not respond and call it a win.
- About 6 months ago I was walking out of a club on a Saturday night with an HB9, an HB7 and HB6 (they were couchsurfing at my place and I was showing them around my city)- and this Swedish girl is literally right there in front of me with her friends. She almost saw me before I saw her and pretended that she didn't by looking away at her friends, but she saw us and it felt pretty good to have to walk past them unintentionally like that. It would have been better if the HB9 upgraded to my bed but that's another story.
At any rate I hope this is a good example of how it can go in this situation. Sometimes I still remember the great sex that we had and crave it again, but I am totally indifferent to her now. I've hooked up with enough younger and hotter chicks since her to completely move on and forget her. I definitely wouldn't want to trade those experiences for keeping her this whole time. So all that advice on here that's repeated over and over is true fellas. Also I'm dealing with a current situation that is similar to this one and I was definitely more in control of my emotions handling it this time.
- About a year ago I saw her at another event. This time we didn't talk to each other, but I was cordial with her friends.
A few days later (after a late friday night out on the prowl) I get back to my apt and there is a message from her on facebook from just like 20 minutes ago, and it was like 3 or 4am. Even though I had deleted her from my friends, there was still a message left in the email and she continued it.
The message simply said: "Hey, how are you, did you like the event?"
It was an obvious feeler, possible booty call. Instead of giving into the temptation I decided to not respond and call it a win.
- About 6 months ago I was walking out of a club on a Saturday night with an HB9, an HB7 and HB6 (they were couchsurfing at my place and I was showing them around my city)- and this Swedish girl is literally right there in front of me with her friends. She almost saw me before I saw her and pretended that she didn't by looking away at her friends, but she saw us and it felt pretty good to have to walk past them unintentionally like that. It would have been better if the HB9 upgraded to my bed but that's another story.
At any rate I hope this is a good example of how it can go in this situation. Sometimes I still remember the great sex that we had and crave it again, but I am totally indifferent to her now. I've hooked up with enough younger and hotter chicks since her to completely move on and forget her. I definitely wouldn't want to trade those experiences for keeping her this whole time. So all that advice on here that's repeated over and over is true fellas. Also I'm dealing with a current situation that is similar to this one and I was definitely more in control of my emotions handling it this time.
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GREAT thread for us newbies out there who need to learn the ways of the wrold....This i sa really great case study. Sorry for your pain man...I can't believe she played with your heart like that WTF. Normally I feel that people on this forum draw the line between male and female too easily, but that is such a female power play...JESUS. What the **** is going on in this girl's head? Would any of you ever do such a thing? Invite a guy over to a bar then reject his kiss? That's just cruel!!! NO really, it is....It hurts so much to get led on. I'm still getting over this one girl even though I"ve been NC for 2 weeks and we never even hooked up. But in puttting the broken pieces back together I've become a lot stronger