"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How often do you see your girl friend/interest?

For_F

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Girl that has high IL in me wants me to be around all the time but I have learnt from my past and this site. In my latest relationship my x was similar - wanted nothing more than to be with me and I obliged, was with her 24/7 until we ultimately became sick of each other and many of each other's traits became unbearable.

Anyway, I am very interested in this girl and see her as a relationship in the near future but I do not want to change my lifestyle dramatically to see her daily and I know this destroys relationships eventually.

How many days per week would you say is standard to see a girl you have high IL for? Im thinking once a week over night stays and maybe once a week day meet up.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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zenaddict

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there is no standard for relationships, if it was, than I am sure the govt would have already made some laws on how many times you can meet a woman before you want to fvck her

since there is no such thing you have to figure it out for yourself and the only way to do so is by not looking for her so you`ll see how much time she can be without you, if she calls you back 3-4 days later after no contact, than it`s safe to assume that 3-4 days is her limit, which means you should meet every 3-4 days, if it`s 5 days, than it means 5 days is her limit
 

zinc4

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For_F said:
Girl that has high IL in me wants me to be around all the time but I have learnt from my past and this site. In my latest relationship my x was similar - wanted nothing more than to be with me and I obliged, was with her 24/7 until we ultimately became sick of each other and many of each other's traits became unbearable.

Anyway, I am very interested in this girl and see her as a relationship in the near future but I do not want to change my lifestyle dramatically to see her daily and I know this destroys relationships eventually.

How many days per week would you say is standard to see a girl you have high IL for? Im thinking once a week over night stays and maybe once a week day meet up.

I just usually spend one or 2 days with her on the weekends....anything more gets old fast IMO after the intial honeymoon phase.
 

rhythmic

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Just under once a week, so every 10 days ish is plenty for me.
 

Plutoman

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2-3 times a week. Still in honeymoon phase though, but it's reasonable enough. Two evenings usually and one lunch. Whether we get all 3 depends on our schedules. We'll put ourselves high on the priority list, but not the only people on our lists.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SgtSplacker

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Generally weekdays I am busy and just don't have enough time/intention to hang out. But i'll spend all weekend with my girl no problem.
 

Fatal Jay

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Friday and Saturdays. The Rest of the week belongs to you and only you.
 

Harry Wilmington

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Great question - you can read my full answer to it by going here.

In short, though: if you just started dating, stick to seeing her only once a week. The less she sees of you in the beginning the better...
 

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Ideal for long term but non committed romance is once a week, skipping a week every month or so. Even once every 3 weeks can work as it's the peak of missing someone.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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