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How often do you guys get IOIs?

HardTimes

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Are there any DJs on this forum who get tail often but does so stickly from game and never gets any IOI?

What I mean is, how often do you get IOI when just doing your normal routine in your daily life, such as shopping at the mall, getting coffee, grocery store, the gym, etc?

I myself, can't remember even one time in my life getting any IOI. How normal is it for guys to never get IOI from women?

P.S. I make myself presentable and smile. I'm pretty sure I give off a friendly attitude.
 

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MisterMcGee

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IOIs meaning ?
Eye contact/checked out, yeah. Not really approached, as girls don't do that unless you're a celeb or whatnot.
 

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It's that certain "look" that girls give you.
In order to see and recognize it, you have to be very much in tune with your surroundings, and be in the present moment.
 

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If it's serious, I try to feel the tension in them. It doesn't need to be a smile or anything, I can tell when they are nervous around me when I am close and those ones are in the bag
 

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IOI stands for what? I know it means like high interest from a girl, and all the things to go with that
 

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She's been waiting forty minutes.

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MisterMcGee

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IOI = indicators of interest. So looking at you, blushing, etc. If you're talking with her, then her holding eye contact, touching you, etc.

Sometimes I find the more stuck-up ones don't hold eye contact or anything, they just play hard to get right off the bat for no reason.

I work in a place where I come into contact with a lot of girls, and the ones who are attracted to me visually either check me out, get nervous, or some other subtle thing.
Some 'hotter' girls (mainly girls who think/know they're hot as sh!t, whether or not they really are) will be cold, not look at me, act pissy, say nothing, or whatever. I know basic "uninterested" behaviour, but these girls are acting like the game's already on, and they're playing by Cosmo's guidelines.

I don't initiate anything at work, and maybe I should, but there's that lack of energy to get in game mode. Still getting over that hurdle.
 

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thanks mistermcgee, personally I find myself going into autopilot with random girls's personalities. some girls I feel so naturally more confident with and can look straight in the eye and be a gentleman and sexy. and others i suck with.

IOI i guess just gives you more room for error ;]
 

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At one time I thought that no girl was interested in me but it turned out that a lot of girls were but I couldn't tell (apparently I turned off a lot of girl because I didn't make a move). Now a days I'm better at reading girls and can pick out which girls dig me with ease.
 

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Kal, some details would be nice regarding the IOIs. I put mine out there, you put yours out there.

@Jblitz, I'm a whole lot more awesome around people who I've got good chemistry with, meaning she makes me feel good when I'm being myself and such.
Some other girls may be following Cosmo too much (hard to get +++) or playing games (which changes the flow of conversations, and makes them feel like a, well... game). In this case, either you don't feel the positive fun energy around her which would normally make you feel open and free, or you don't feel like putting in the energy to "run game" on her and break her defense down. In these cases, the chemistry sucks. Both guys and girls curse themselves to having bad chemistry with people because they aren't being real/free with one another.
Of course, those girls could also simply not be into you. :p
 

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Best advice , TAKE A GIRL WITH YOU and your chix friend will sniff it out so easily man.

I sometimes hang out with my cousins I am like "That chix was looking at me" and she goes " No she wasn't" then next time I think they are not my cousin goes " She was checking you out".

Girls read girls and they understand how girls give IOI, dont ask for girls on general advice but you can ask girls about reading girls body language there pro at that.
 

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Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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zekko

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Kal0051 said:
At one time I thought that no girl was interested in me but it turned out that a lot of girls were but I couldn't tell (apparently I turned off a lot of girl because I didn't make a move). Now a days I'm better at reading girls and can pick out which girls dig me with ease.
I read somewhere that men are generally clueless about when women are expressing interest in them. I think that's pretty true. Women's signals can be very subtle.

When I was younger I used to find out that some woman or other was interested in me at one time, but I didn't realize it, didn't do anything, and the attraction passed. Then it was too late.
Either I knew she was flirting with me and just figured that was her personality (and thus not real IOIs), or just didn't pick up on her signals.

Guys here have trained to recognize these things, so hopefully they do better. Then there is the school of thought that you should ALWAYS assume that they're interested in you, until you find out different :)
 

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I get some eye-contact at the shopping centre (mall), last weekend one girl was walking infront of me like she was pissed off, she had a fit body & wearing pink, she span round and made eye contact and we had a little convo about her job.
I get bum bumped in the club, bar, notice when girls (usually younger) start dancing next to me.
In the gym I get eye contact but much less than in town. Once a hot milf called me over and asked how to use one of the machines, saying I looked like someone who would know, I showed her and walked off,too young to realise then.

I think a lot is to do with your posture, how you carry yourself.
 

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First off, a female's IOI's different vastly from a male's.
So if you're basing this IOI business from women based on your own perceptions of IOI's, you'll be sorely disappointed.

The female IOI vibe is subtle and can be hardly recognizable...you have to fine tune and refine your awareness and perceptions to pick up on them. In this manner, you can be very perceptive about IOI's and IOD's (Indicators of Disinterest, just made that up)...both are equally important. No use wasting your energy on a chick who just isn't into you either.

I notice for myself it seems to be cyclical...there are times I feel phucking invisible and others where it seems women can't take their eyes off me.

Also, I don't get many during the normal daylight hours, but if I'm in a bar or a club, I seem to get many more, which makes sense since the context is geared toward flirting and women feel less inhibited about it.
 

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a simple path said:
I notice for myself it seems to be cyclical...there are times I feel phucking invisible and others where it seems women can't take their eyes off me.
I've noticed this myself and I often wonder what's different. Maybe it's those days when you forget to zip your fly up :)
 

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I get them occasionally but usually from women I'm not really interested in on a physical level. My travels throughout the day usually consist of trying to get eye contact and watching them look away pretty quickly or a quick, non-committed smile. But I plow ahead anyway.

But once I get to know them a little more some of the ones I am attracted to, who were not originally showing any interest, start showing me a little love. Light touching, talking about hanging out, compliments, etc.
 

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MisterMcGee said:
Kal, some details would be nice regarding the IOIs. I put mine out there, you put yours out there.
I don't really analyze girl's behavior looking for specific things because like it's been said that girls' IOI are subtle. I usually go by the vibe I get from the girl.

But if your looking for examples of what girls do: eye contact, light touching, nervous ticks like playing with your hair, being open towards you (ie. sitting with her legs pointed towards you, arms not crossed). Now don't go around analyzing every girl now.
 

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If you can't tell by my name, I'm asian.

I went to China for a month and I was getting IOI's from basically every girl I met. They'd get nervous and uncomfortable around me and would always look at me when I first walk in somewhere. I could feel all the eyes on me and it was pretty awesome.

But here in the U.S. literally no girls ever look at me or hold eye contact. I can feel them projecting their disinterest towards me.

I make it sound like a huge difference in how they act, but in actuality, there are only very subtle differences in how asian and caucasian women respond towards me. I can just FEEL it.

I go and approach in China and every girl gets nervous and blushes and ****.
But I approach a caucasian girl, and they try to run away.
 

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Everyone's talking about how a girl's IOI's are different from a guy's IOI's, but I've yet to see very many examples. I realize every girl is different, but what are some specific instances of an IOI?
 

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I get the occasional eye contact/smile, rarely get approached though.
 

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