How often do women initiate?

[Borknagar]

I'm just kind of trying to get a general idea of how often do women initiate sets with the others here when they go out? I'm talking bars and clubs.

Myself, I generally don't open too many sets any more, I do somethings if none open within a few minutes of me entering the establishment, but lately, its been pretty quick, which is nice and less work. Like I walked into a bar in Minneapolis last week and the second I entered a group of brides maids was like "hey welcome to brothers!" And the bride to be goes up to me and is like "hey I need practice, so I need a cute guy to pretend to walk me down the isle".

And another place, I laugh when I get this cause its obvious, but I walked in, and walked near the dance floor and some chick comes up and says "hey you look familiar, do I know you"? Maybe not a open but def IOI.


Kinda nice coming from a guy who has been told he is "nasty" a few years back, loosing weight, geting a hair cut, and some good cloths really make a huge difference. If anyone wants to know what its like to be FUGLY most of your life, and 20s, and how it changes a person let me know and I'll post my thoughts.

 

[Voice]

Most girls will find a way to let you know they like you. After that it's pretty much up to you. Sometimes they will ask to hang out. Most high value girls won't. Most will make you do all the real work.

A girl at a bar trying to strike up a conversation could be an ioi, but don't expect her to be doing anything else. She'll let you know she's interested, you must do the rest.

 

[ArcBound]

i've had it happen rarely.. usually even if they are interested i have to initiate cause they never will

i'd like to hear your thoughts on everything you said

 

[PapiChulo]

If they are drunk they will.

They simply send you signals and let you know they are giving green light: flirt, compliments, stares (like on the bus), sudden comments. They like to "feel you up" a bit and get to know you a bit if they see you on a regular basis - that's just friendliness for the most part.

My current object of affections escalated on me almost like a guy with nice kino to show her interest- at this point it was clear. And she is not too bold either.

Look at it this way:

1. She is friendly - doesnt mind you around and wants your attention - you can step up the game Yellow light

2. She is interested, and finds you attractive in a sexual way. Green light


Your job is notice these signals and quickly respond to them:

"Do I know you?" is an opener. Your response should be: "Yes, I am pretty famous around here.... etc." She will ask why: blah blah blah. You end up banging her if the cards played right. When you are unattractive they wont open you like that unless you fondled or insulted them or something like that.

 

[f283000]

The price of pu$$y is higher than gold at the moment in our society. Women don't initiate and don't need to the way men do because of that. Most stuff besides eye contact and smiles are beneath women of today.

The way most women initiate is with their look. If she makes eye contact with you, if she smiles, that's initiating to a woman. The stronger type of initiation a woman does now a days is starting conversations. If a random woman you never met before starts a random conversation with you that's a very good thing.

Another strong with one would be strong eye contact. I'm not talking about the usual eye contact/smile that only lasts for a second or 2. If you end up holding eye contact with a woman for a long time that's a strong sexual message that she wants the rod and you need to go talk to her asap.